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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    .... are you serious, here?
    Suicide has been studied in Palestine.. Its a result of occupation and despair.

    Think about it.. Jesus lived his whole life under Roman occupation.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The protests are spreading like wildfire now. The U.S. embassy in Germany is on fire now.
    I think that's the German Embassy and the British Embassy in Sudan.

    British, German and US embassies targeted as protests against anti-Islam film continue to spread throughout Muslim world - World Politics - World - The Independent

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Suicide has been studied in Palestine.. Its a result of occupation and despair.
    Suicide bombings are not limited to Palestine, nor are they even most prevalent there.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by John.NoseTip View Post
    Absolutely. However, you need to read the rest to understand what I was saying. I could be wrong but I think many of the people carrying out those attacks feel like they don't have any options left so why not do something for the glory of god.
    ....no. There are too many jihadi's out there with too many options for that. Though you might enjoy (it's a bit dated) Frantz Fannon's The Wretched of the Earth, on the topic of terrorism in Algeria. His explanation was similar, thought distinct from yours here - arguing that the terrorist relieved himself of an anger-driven inferiority complex through his actions; resolving cognitive dissonance. He's a filthy little turncoat sympathizer, Fannon is, but his work should be required reading (imo) for anyone who wants to study terrorism in general and Islamist ventures into it in particular. In addition you may want to try Dying to Win: the Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism by Robert Pape, which discusses suicide bombing from the realist perspective.

    The short answer is that while suicide bombing is not directly tied to any one particular religion or inherently tied to religion, it can be. Sort of like how some people join the Army because they are patriots and some join the Army for the educational opportunities, and neither negates the presence of the other.

    I think all religions are bad and can lead people to do absurd things.
    that's unfortunate, as it cuts you off from much that is best about humanity. Religion has driven us to do some of our best deeds.

    I just think the reason there are suicide bombers is more complicated than they're Muslims.
    that is correct.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well I wasn't in a Mosque.....but I was in and around The El Rukns Temple in Chicago back in the 70's and 80's. But what would it matter if I was or wasnt. If your religious leader is inciting people to violence over the religion and it is suppose to be a religion of peace. Then he is a fake leader and he needs to be removed immediately from that Spot.

    Can't have it both ways.....saying I am a man of God. But I will have my flock committ acts of violence on innocent people who have nothing to do with any affront he is talking about.
    There is little point in comparing Muslims to Christians. It's another world from another century.

    This would be unacceptable behaviour to any Christian yet these attacks are defended, downgraded or explained away by Muslims and their groupies.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It looks like Islamistan is at war with the United States. It is time to call out the big guns. We should destroy Mecca. Completely.
    That's an option that should certainly be put on the table for the next time anything like this occurs. But first all foreign aid must stop.
    Last edited by Grant; 09-15-12 at 10:25 AM.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

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    How do you know that suicide bombings are related to religion?
    By their admissions? By hollering Allah Ackbar?

    How much of that is driven by desparation instead of religion could be much greater than you realize. I don't know which it is the religion or the desparation. I do know desparate people do desparate things and suicide bombing is a desparate act. Labeling Islam as a gutter religion seems like a generalization to me. How many free muslims have you lived with?
    Desperate? Desperate for what? If they weren't Muslims it might be less likely that they'd be desperate. Desperate people do not go out and murder innocent people but insane people do.

    All religions are silly to me therefore I know little about the history of any of the religions. However, I do know western societies owe quite a bit to that part of the world. At least that's what I was taught in western civ class.
    You took a western civ class but know little about the history of any religions? That's contemporary western education system in a nutshell.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It looks like Islamistan is at war with the United States. It is time to call out the big guns. We should destroy Mecca. Completely.
    Who is "we"?

    The United States must be doing something wrong in the world.

    The US flag is the most burnt on the planet

    Can you think of anything that the USA could be doing in the world that is upsetting people so much?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's an option that should certainly be put on the table for the next time anything like this occurs. But first all foreign aid must stop.
    What about the 1.4 million dead Iraqi civilians?

    What should the Iraqis do to the USA to avenge their slaughter?

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    What about the 1.4 million dead Iraqi civilians?
    1.4 million?

    What should the Iraqis do to the USA to avenge their slaughter?
    go after AQI who killed them?

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