Page 124 of 173 FirstFirst ... 2474114122123124125126134 ... LastLast
Results 1,231 to 1,240 of 1725

Thread: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate Benghazi leaves 4 dead, inc. U.S. Ambassador[W:939]

  1. #1231
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Libya is a large country with a small population that mostly hugs the coast line.. I really don't know much about the Berbers.. There must be pockets of them left, but I thought that most were now mixed blood people.. Arab/Berber.

    I think Libya is about 95% Sunni Muslim with some Sufi influence.
    Just from the Basic Wikipedia.....

    Berbers (Berber: ⵉⵎⴰⵣⵉⵖⴻⵏ Imazighen / Imaziɣen) are the indigenous ethnic group of North Africa west of the Nile Valley. They are continuously distributed from the Atlantic to the Siwa oasis, in Egypt, and from the Mediterranean to the Niger River. Historically they spoke the Berber language and local varieties of it, which together form the "Berber branch" of the Afro-Asiatic language family. Today, varieties of Maghrebi colloquial Arabic are spoken by a large portion of Berbers besides the Berber language itself. Foreign languages like French and Spanish, inherited from European occupation, are used by some educated Berbers in Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria in some formal contexts such as higher education or business.

    Today, most Berber-speaking people live in Morocco and Algeria. Smaller Berber-speaking populations are scattered throughout Tunisia, Libya, Mauritania, Mali and Niger, as well as large migrant communities living in Europe.[1][2]

    The presence of the Arabic language and dialects is due to the spread of Islam and to the immigration of some Arab tribes to the region centuries ago. A Berber person is not necessarily only someone who happens to speak Berber. The Berber identity is usually wider than language and ethnicity, and encompasses the entire history and geography of North Africa. Berbers are not a homogeneous ethnic group and they encompass a range of phenotypes, cultures and ancestries. The unifying forces for the Berber people could be their Berber language, belonging to the Berber homeland, or a collective identification with the Berber heritage and history.

    Linguistically speaking, there are some 25 to 35 million Berber-language speakers in North Africa.[citation needed]

    Many Berbers call themselves some variant of the word imazighen (singular: Amazigh), possibly meaning "free people" or "free and noble men"[1]. The word has probably an ancient parallel in the Roman and Greek names for some of the Berbers, "Mazices".

  2. #1232
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    06-28-17 @ 10:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,909

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Well I got caught in a Shia riot with my family once.. Ramped up is a soft word for mass hysteria.. but I wasn't in Benghazi so I don't know to what extent they were ramped up.
    "Ramped up" seems to be spontaneous reaction, here however, "timed to coincide with the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the killing of the American ambassador to Libya, John Christopher Stevens and three others , in a furious attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi by heavily armed assailants does not seem to bear the fingerprints of a “spontaneous” assault."

  3. #1233
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    06-28-17 @ 10:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,909

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The three hundred or so that were protesting the film in Benghazi should not necessarily be considered barbarians. According to the hospital, it was protestors who rushed Amb Stevens and another man with a gunshot to his leg to the hospital.
    How could you say that, they all were part of an illegal activity that resulted in murder.

  4. #1234
    On Vacation
    joko104's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Seen
    12-03-17 @ 03:32 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    31,568
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The three hundred or so that were protesting the film in Benghazi should not necessarily be considered barbarians. According to the hospital, it was protestors who rushed Amb Stevens and another man with a gunshot to his leg to the hospital.

    I have yet to see any evidence that this had anything to do with a movie and photographs show that protesters were not rushing the Ambassor to the hospital.

  5. #1235
    On Vacation
    joko104's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Seen
    12-03-17 @ 03:32 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    31,568
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Do you think the President is politically taking it up the ass from his "freedom fighter" friends in that region?

  6. #1236
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    08-09-13 @ 08:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,600

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    How could you say that, they all were part of an illegal activity that resulted in murder.
    The reports I heard was that the protest over the movie was noisy but not violent.. until the shooting started.. and that the protesters were shaken by it.

    Protesting an offensive film is not really an illegal activity.

  7. #1237
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Georgia
    Last Seen
    08-09-13 @ 08:14 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    11,600

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I have yet to see any evidence that this had anything to do with a movie and photographs show that protesters were not rushing the Ambassor to the hospital.
    They carried him out of the building and to a car. He was found on the floor in dense smoke.

  8. #1238
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    06-28-17 @ 10:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,909

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I have yet to see any evidence that this had anything to do with a movie and photographs show that protesters were not rushing the Ambassor to the hospital.
    It did not, but, even if it did the only thing these people can have a valid complaint about is they did not get any popcorn with the movie. These people used that nonsensical movie as a very poor smoke screen for their hateful and murderous ways.

  9. #1239
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    10-13-12 @ 02:26 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,556

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The reports I heard was that the protest over the movie was noisy but not violent.. until the shooting started.. and that the protesters were shaken by it.

    Protesting an offensive film is not really an illegal activity.

    No, you are right, protesting is not an illegal activity.

    Murdering 4 human beings in American territory, an Embassy is American territory, that is criminal sharon.


    just to add... more than criminal .... its a declaration of war.
    Last edited by Mya; 09-13-12 at 10:57 PM.

  10. #1240
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:40 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,655

    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Klown View Post
    Of course the attack on the embassy is wrong and wont acheive anything except perpetuate more violence

    But for someone in the USA to moralise and condemn this event, after ignoring or even supporting the imperialist US militarism all around the world that has resulted millions of deaths, is nothing short of delusional and hypocritical.

    And to use your terminology, is US foreign policy and militarism "radical fundamentalism"?

    Or perhaps you cant see the crimes that are carried out in your name?

    I suppose I would be confused as well in that scenario!
    why are you trying to justify the murders a bunch of idiot radical muslims perpetuated. Someone should be able to make movies about their prophet having sex with camels and that would not justify ANY Violence and those who did become violent should be exterminated for being violent criminals. NO Christians rioted and killed people when some artist put a crucifix in urine. No anglican priest shot Ian Anderson when he sang songs like "MY GOD" which lambastes "the bloody church of england in chains on history"

    Jews have been smeared in movies for years-it goes back to plays with "Shylock" the greedy Jew. They aren't killing people

    THe sad fact is-its a sizable number of Muslims that go bonkers when their prophet is smeared =or in many cases-depicted truthfully and there is absolutely no excuse whatsoever for that sort of idiocy

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •