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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do you fix things and tighten things up when your people's lives are at stake?
    You should, but those who repaired it were most likely (I could be wrong) following the design of the consulate and rebuilt what needed to be the way it was leased, nothing more, nothing less.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Ignorance for far right wingers will prevail in this conversation, in the sense it will not win the argument, but will remain the loudest rhetoric...

    This is not a rebuttal, nor an invitation to conversation.

    This is simply a statement of mockery of your position.


    There's very little the President can do about this situation, be him (D) or (R)
    Really? So the two days warning the State Department had was nothing? Why didn't the State Department warn the Ambassadors?

    or Bush or Obama or Romney or Reagan, unless of course you're suggesting he order the US military to march through Middle Eastern capitals mowing down protesters by machine gun fire as they go...

    Those who are reasonable among us realize this.

    Those of you who are not, will not.

    This is the way of things.

    Nothing I, nor anyone else, with our words may convince you otherwise, that this is not the sole fault of the President of the United States, a position that requires ignorance beyond comprehension...
    Apologists apologize. And learn nothing.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    You should, but those who repaired it were most likely (I could be wrong) following the design of the consulate and rebuilt what needed to be the way it was leased, nothing more, nothing less.
    My thinking would be that any average leader.....would have immediately looked to fortify. Especially after they tried to take out the Brits Ambassador. Also I do think the glass was replaced as the explosion blew out some windows when they took out the gates.

    Especially if I barely have any security. After such an attack I would have had all my people move away from all windows, not giving any direct lines of site thru windows. Also I would have used whatever vehicles if I had to as obstacles. Especially if there is no getting out. Also I would clutter walkways with furniture just in case doors were forced. No straight bum-rushing in.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Really? So the two days warning the State Department had was nothing? Why didn't the State Department warn the Ambassadors?


    Apologists apologize. And learn nothing.
    You might want to read this.

    Libya consulate attack: The big unanswered questions – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Or maybe I could read this instead:

    According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.
    Revealed: inside story of US envoy's assassination - World Politics - World - The Independent

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    From your link.....

    U.S. sources are giving conflicting accounts about whether the attack was planned before the protest and whether the attackers used the protest as a diversion.

    "According to our sources, the attack was the work of roughly 20 militants, prepared for a military assault; it is rare that an RPG7 is present at a peaceful protest," Benotman said.

    However, one U.S. official told CNN on Thursday that intelligence information indicated that the attack wasn’t premeditated.

    U.S. intelligence officials believe that it is very unlikely that the core of al Qaeda was behind the attack, one such official said Thursday. The official did not rule out a group sympathizing with al Qaeda.

    "One of the things that we've noticed over the last six or seven months is that al Qaeda in the Maghreb, northern Africa, have said they're really eager to strike northeastern targets. We've seen cells in Libya and Egypt starting to develop," U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, told CNN's "Starting Point.".....snip~


    Plus we have the libyans now reporting 300 hard corp Islamist fighters. Thats 20 with RPG's!

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    From your link.....

    U.S. sources are giving conflicting accounts about whether the attack was planned before the protest and whether the attackers used the protest as a diversion.

    "According to our sources, the attack was the work of roughly 20 militants, prepared for a military assault; it is rare that an RPG7 is present at a peaceful protest," Benotman said.

    However, one U.S. official told CNN on Thursday that intelligence information indicated that the attack wasn’t premeditated.

    U.S. intelligence officials believe that it is very unlikely that the core of al Qaeda was behind the attack, one such official said Thursday. The official did not rule out a group sympathizing with al Qaeda.

    "One of the things that we've noticed over the last six or seven months is that al Qaeda in the Maghreb, northern Africa, have said they're really eager to strike northeastern targets. We've seen cells in Libya and Egypt starting to develop," U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Michigan, told CNN's "Starting Point.".....snip~


    Plus we have the libyans now reporting 300 hard corp Islamist fighters. Thats 20 with RPG's!
    I know.. I don't think we know everything.. and may not.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    finally watched parts of the "movie" that has caused these events and I would like to withdraw my statements yesterday when I said the American gov should do more to stop hate speech as it endangers the troops. I withdraw that statement because the video is so bad that im honestly shocked Arab Muslims are taking it seriously!
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    finally watched parts of the "movie" that has caused these events and I would like to withdraw my statements yesterday when I said the American gov should do more to stop hate speech as it endangers the troops. I withdraw that statement because the video is so bad that im honestly shocked Arab Muslims are taking it seriously!
    I think most wouldn't.. Some might picket.. but there is always an element that gets ramped up.

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    Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I know.. I don't think we know everything.. and may not.
    Notably, the Brigades said the June 5 attack was also timed to coincide with preparations for the arrival of a senior U.S. State Department official.

    “The time frame of attacks shows that the group has been following and actively involved in gathering information about the activities of diplomatic missions in the country,” Benotman wrote in a June briefing paper on the group.

    He adds that it appears the Omar Abdul Rahman Brigades was also responsible for a rocket attack against the convoy of the British ambassador in Benghazi on June 11 and an attack against the Red Cross in Misrata on June 12.

    Another Libyan official told CNN at the same time that five radical Islamist militant commanders were operating in the Derna area, with 200 to 300 men under their command in camps in the area. Ironically, Christopher Stephens — the U.S. ambassador killed in Tuesday’s attack — had written extensively about the rise of Salafist factions in and around Derna in a 2008 diplomatic cable.

    As CNN has previously reported, one of militant commanders, according to several sources, is Abdulbasit Azuz, a long-time associate of al-Zawahiri. Azuz was dispatched by al-Zawahiri to Libya from Pakistan’s tribal areas in the spring of 2011 to create a foothold for al Qaeda in Libya, the sources say.

    Azuz is a veteran jihadist who fought the Soviet-backed government in Afghanistan in the early 1990s, according to several sources. He later to moved to the United Kingdom, where he increasingly came on the radar screen of British security services for his radical recruitment efforts in Manchester.

    According to one source, Azuz has dispatched men as far west as Ajdabiya and Brega in his attempt to build up al Qaeda operations in eastern Libya.

    According to Libyan security sources, within the militant ranks in Derna there are 20 to 30 hardcore jihadist fighters who are cause for most concern. One source said a number of Egyptian jihadists are also present in the Derna area, as well as fighters belonging to al Qaeda’s North African affiliate, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.....snip~

    Report: Attack on US embassy in Libya was planned | MyFOX8.com

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