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Taliban say they hope to kidnap or assassinate Prince Harry

I don't know if Prince Harry being there is wise, but it is admirable.

LaMidRighter said:
My best friend made a good point about Bush never serving in 'Nam. H.W. was at the C.I.A. head at the time, talk about an international incident if his son were in captivity. Not saying that is why G.W. didn't go to theater or not but it made sense to me. In current theaters, not aware of any high profile children serving.
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Bob Blaylock said:
That ought not be a concern for us. The idea that Prince Harry is—because of his parentage—any more valuable than any of the other soldiers of equivalent rank in the area is based on a principle which we soundly rejected when we founded this country. Perhaps one of the most well-known, but poorly-understood lines in the Declaration of Independence is “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal…”. I guess too many of us don't really understand that this is a rejection of the European tradition of royalty and nobility, which holds that some men are born better than others, simply because of the titles that their parents hold and their position within the whole royal/noble hierarchy.
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I suspect that the US wouldn't allow a high-profile American to serve on the front lines. For example, if Obama's daughters were older and wanted to enlist, I suspect that they'd be kept far from harm's way. Which is probably a good idea.

Beside that, if the British think that their princes are that valuable, then they ought not be so willing to put them in harm's way.
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Agreed. It's incredibly stupid for the British government to allow this IMO. This seems like it has a lot of downside and very little upside. If they just want to restore Prince Harry's image following his tabloid embarrassments, they should just send him in some kind of supportive role instead of on the front lines.
 
specklebang said:
I don't know if Prince Harry being there is wise, but it is admirable.
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Absolutely. It would be a nightmare if the Taliban does capture or assassinate him though, it would start the war back to full.
 
I'm guessing he'll be well covered and protected. To be sure, a capture would be very serious. As for a "war in full", we simply aren't in a position to reverse course at this point. I'll guess that drone technology will make the area very dangerous for the rest of time, but there will never be a clear resolution.

LaMidRighter said:
Absolutely. It would be a nightmare if the Taliban does capture or assassinate him though, it would start the war back to full.
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specklebang said:
I'm guessing he'll be well covered and protected. To be sure, a capture would be very serious. As for a "war in full", we simply aren't in a position to reverse course at this point. I'll guess that drone technology will make the area very dangerous for the rest of time, but there will never be a clear resolution.
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Eh, a lot of factors on the ground could change. It's impossible to know what a buildup would entail and frankly, I hope we never have to find out.
 
The Brits won't escalate things because Harry get's nabbed, or offed.
 
apdst said:
The Brits won't escalate things because Harry get's nabbed, or offed.
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On what do you base this assertion? NATO has already recognized and responded to this threat.
 
Britain has already thought of that and put him in an armoured helicopter gunship, one of which (without tempting fate) Britain has never lost.
 
Remind me to never invite the Taliban to Las Vegas. When does standing naked next to a hot naked girl merit a death sentence?
 
Kandahar said:
I suspect that the US wouldn't allow a high-profile American to serve on the front lines. For example, if Obama's daughters were older and wanted to enlist, I suspect that they'd be kept far from harm's way. Which is probably a good idea.



Agreed. It's incredibly stupid for the British government to allow this IMO. This seems like it has a lot of downside and very little upside. If they just want to restore Prince Harry's image following his tabloid embarrassments, they should just send him in some kind of supportive role instead of on the front lines.
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We had Tilman a NFL Football Player, a TOP NFL player who went off to Serve His Country. Moreover he did not just join the Regular Army. He made sure he was going where the Fighting is. So he joined my bruthas......those Who, Lead The Way! He died on the Front Lines! Sua Sponte. Huah!

T.Roosevelt Jr.....Served on the Front and was the son of Former President.

Moreover we have top Brass that have sons in the Military and on the front lines. We also have several politicans on both sides of the Aisle that have sons and or daughters on the Front lines.

For the so Called Noble.....it is a catch 22. One he is Royalty and put up above others. Then on the other hand.....he also must show that he to would be willing to die for Queen and Country. Just as any commoner would. Being one that is renown has it's advantages as well as it's negatives. Either way for the enemy.....he is a high valued target. This would not be some punishment for what took place in Vegas.

Truthfully he was on leave when in Vegas, as he was down in San Diego training with our Cobra Attack Helicoptors and the Apache as well. Which he had come home for the training. Taking the Brits training with their Command Sea King Helicoptor. Then their Puma and Lynx Helicoptors. Before coming over to the US for Final Training. Flying Combat!

The Taliban would be stupid to kill him. Now to Capture him.....that would be quite a different story.
 
Sherman123 said:
I love the idea of Harry deploying to Afghanistan. It shows the kind of commitment NATO allies should have in the fight. Furthermore I want to go back to the days where royals establish bleak or terrible titles based upon their war activities. For example "The Dread Prince Harry, Scythe of Helmand, Lord Militant British Forces".
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I agree the man wants to serve his country, his assignment should not be contingent upon his name or relationships. His service is commendable...:thumbs:
 
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Connery said:
On what do you base this assertion? NATO has already recognized and responded to this threat.
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Based on the assertion that when the Leftists won power in The UK, they couldn't get out of Iraq and Afghanistan quick enough.

When the Iranians took a half dozen Brit sailors hostage, did the Brits do anything? Uh...no!
 
apdst said:
Based on the assertion that when the Leftists won power in The UK, they couldn't get out of Iraq and Afghanistan quick enough.

When the Iranians took a half dozen Brit sailors hostage, did the Brits do anything? Uh...no!
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So nothing as it relates to the current situation.
 
apdst said:
Based on the assertion that when the Leftists won power in The UK, they couldn't get out of Iraq and Afghanistan quick enough.

When the Iranians took a half dozen Brit sailors hostage, did the Brits do anything? Uh...no!
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You probably shouldn't throw stones. That glass house thingie, ya know.

The USA did nothing when the Iranians took over the USA embassy except a halfass rescue attempt. When that turned into a complete failure, y'all just curled up in the fetal position until Iran got bored. :doh

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apdst said:
The Brits won't escalate things because Harry get's nabbed, or offed.
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I disagree, the British take the safety of their royal family VERY seriously. In fact harming a royal would probably bring more anger to that country than a United States assassination IMHO, not playing down our response but rather by comparison showing just how strongly the U.K.'s feelings are for the throne. I fimly believe that harming Prince Harry would bring a ****storm of epic proportions to that region.
 
TOJ said:
You probably shouldn't throw stones. That glass house thingie, ya know.

The USA did nothing when the Iranians took over the USA embassy except a halfass rescue attempt. When that turned into a complete failure, y'all just curled up in the fetal position until Iran got bored. :doh

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Now that it is quite funny......perhaps some history should be re-read. Or did you forget what the CIA did to get 6 Hostages out of Iran. That the inept Iranians couldnt quite even figure out what was going on. Knew the 6 had escaped.

But as usual.....couldn't do anything about it. Except for their usual Shiznit talkin. Which the Iranians are real good at one thing......TALK!
 
MMC said:
Now that it is quite funny......perhaps some history should be re-read. Or did you forget what the CIA did to get 6 Hostages out of Iran. That the inept Iranians couldnt quite even figure out what was going on. Knew the 6 had escaped.

But as usual.....couldn't do anything about it. Except for their usual Shiznit talkin. Which the Iranians are real good at one thing......TALK!
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And how many were left to whatever fate awaited them while Iranians laughed at the Great (impotent) Satan? :doh

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TOJ said:
And how many were left to whatever fate awaited them while Iranians laughed at the Great (impotent) Satan? :doh

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None were just left to any fate. Which is why as Soon as Reagan was elected......Iran knew a cowboy was in the office and they Immediately capitulated. For they knew with Certainty that Reagan would put up that Wanted Posted. Course it would have only said one thing. WANTED DEAD! Which we all know the Iranian Theocracy had already went and hid under the rocks where they were accustom to.



O.....I.....C.....still confused over who is that Great Satan. You know some religions think the EGG is the symbol of the Soul!
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Did I mention.....I likes mine Raw and as Hor-Dourves! That would be ALL EGGS from the ME.
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LaMidRighter said:
I disagree, the British take the safety of their royal family VERY seriously. In fact harming a royal would probably bring more anger to that country than a United States assassination IMHO, not playing down our response but rather by comparison showing just how strongly the U.K.'s feelings are for the throne. I fimly believe that harming Prince Harry would bring a ****storm of epic proportions to that region.
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I'm not saying they going to nothing. Of course they'll negotiate and/or send in some SAS operators at the first oppurtunity.

However, get all up in arms and go mideival on the bad guys? That ain't gonna happen.
 
Ahh, good ol' regicide.
 
apdst said:
I'm not saying they going to nothing. Of course they'll negotiate and/or send in some SAS operators at the first oppurtunity.

However, get all up in arms and go mideival on the bad guys? That ain't gonna happen.
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I dunno man. A royal hasn't been in distress deliberately for a long time, but Britain fervently loves them. Try saying **** the queen in London, will not end well.
 
LaMidRighter said:
I dunno man. A royal hasn't been in distress deliberately for a long time, but Britain fervently loves them. Try saying **** the queen in London, will not end well.
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Depends.....Perception, is always the telling factor. :2razz:
 
MMC said:
None were just left to any fate. Which is why as Soon as Reagan was elected......

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The Iranians succeeded in embarrassing the USA for months. They showed that the USA, under Carter, was impotent. Many think the Iranian hostages are a big reason Carter lost and that changed the course of USA history.

They have been thumbing their nose at the USA for years and you do nothing.

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TOJ said:
The Iranians succeeded in embarrassing the USA for months. They showed that the USA, under Carter, was impotent. Many think the Iranian hostages are a big reason Carter lost and that changed the course of USA history.

They have been thumbing their nose at the USA for years and you do nothing.

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Seems Iran is surrounded isn't it? I know it's difficult to understand. Isolation being forced upon one by the 800lb Gorilla in the room. With no place to run and no place to hide. Now all those pipelines being set up with refineries and avoiding the Persian Gulf. Puts that perspective all into play. Course the Iranians not knowing about the Canadians and the CIA getting those other 6 hostages out of Iran and not for quite a few years later. Kindashows how well informed the Iranians are.

See thats the problem with the Iranians. While they look for PR and the Camera.....the US just keeps that strategy and tactics rollin on down the line. As we all know that the US isn't gonna go down in the History Books for being a bully to a Paper-Tiger.

Course maybe the real Persians aren't interested about anything to do with the Shia.....and are just waiting for the day to take back whats Rightly theirs. Could be a thought concerning why the Eagle hasnt come to fetch it's dinner!
 
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