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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    Ughh, the volt was:
    - European Car of the Year
    - North American Car of the Year
    - Motor Trend Car of the Yea
    - and Automobile Magazine Automobile of the Year

    Automotive experts see this as an achievement in innovation while the narrow minded want to bash it so they can make a loose political point. Good thing some of you weren't in charge of NASA when Apollo 1 caught fire.

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    Yes, which illustrates my point exactly in an apples to apples manner. Do I need to break down that a mach 3 costs about 10 bucks to make in order to show how I broke 750 million in R&D over 10,000 razors?

    By the way, I have no idea how much it costs to make a Mach 3, but I figured who cares, everybody else is using whatever formula they like. As long as I got the math right it must be true right?
    No, because the point is still made. The volt is a failure, and it wouldnt be a big deal if the taxpayers werent subsidizing it. Get the govt out of GM, and no one will care.

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    Ughh, the volt was:
    - European Car of the Year
    - North American Car of the Year
    - Motor Trend Car of the Yea
    - and Automobile Magazine Automobile of the Year

    Automotive experts see this as an achievement in innovation while the narrow minded want to bash it so they can make a loose political point. Good thing some of you weren't in charge of NASA when Apollo 1 caught fire.
    Automotive experts are as dumb and biased as the rest of us. A $60k car that you have to plug in for 10 hours to go 40 miles, then put gas in, is a stupid idea. Hybrid is a stupid idea outside the lab.

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    I don't buy this (the news that is).

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    The Pentagon is buying 1500 of them. Before the government is through they will buy enough of them to make them appear a 'great' product.

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    Ughh, the volt was:
    - European Car of the Year
    - North American Car of the Year
    - Motor Trend Car of the Yea
    - and Automobile Magazine Automobile of the Year

    Automotive experts see this as an achievement in innovation while the narrow minded want to bash it so they can make a loose political point. Good thing some of you weren't in charge of NASA when Apollo 1 caught fire.
    Peruse the history of those awards.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    Quote Originally Posted by pdog View Post
    Ughh, the volt was:
    - European Car of the Year
    - North American Car of the Year
    - Motor Trend Car of the Yea
    - and Automobile Magazine Automobile of the Year

    Automotive experts see this as an achievement in innovation while the narrow minded want to bash it so they can make a loose political point. Good thing some of you weren't in charge of NASA when Apollo 1 caught fire.
    Own one? Know people that do? I know 3. 1 actually drives his occasionally. That pretty much is inline with surveys that say that only about 1/3 of current hybrid type cars will ever buy another one.

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Automotive experts are as dumb and biased as the rest of us. A $60k car that you have to plug in for 10 hours to go 40 miles, then put gas in, is a stupid idea. Hybrid is a stupid idea outside the lab.
    Hybrids are a great idea, that's why many trains and ships are hybrids,
    And when the car companies build a real one, it will be obvious.
    unfortunately the car companies don't understand what they have, or how to apply it.
    The first hybrid vehicle should be an all wheel drive 1 ton truck, with 4 hub motors.
    Pull a big camper, horse trailer, or boat, and get 30 mpg.
    The delta of 10 to 20 MPG would be significant enough to attract attention, and the price point
    is already high.

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Hybrids are a great idea, that's why many trains and ships are hybrids,
    And when the car companies build a real one, it will be obvious.
    unfortunately the car companies don't understand what they have, or how to apply it.
    The first hybrid vehicle should be an all wheel drive 1 ton truck, with 4 hub motors.
    Pull a big camper, horse trailer, or boat, and get 30 mpg.
    The delta of 10 to 20 MPG would be significant enough to attract attention, and the price point
    is already high.
    Id love to see a hybrid that can do that. Unfortunately, I think the only way they are going to engineer a truck to get that kind of mileage consistently is by making it a diesel. And it would need significant range. To get to the lake I usually head to I have to travel about 300 miles round trip.

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    Re: GM Losing Up To $49,000 Per Volt

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    No, because the point is still made. The volt is a failure, and it wouldnt be a big deal if the taxpayers werent subsidizing it. Get the govt out of GM, and no one will care.
    If you want to bash the automotive bailout on it's own, be my guest. But nobody here or anybody else outside of GM gets to decide when the Volt program is over and they sure as hell aren't going to do it just 2 years in.

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