Page 8 of 69 FirstFirst ... 6789101858 ... LastLast
Results 71 to 80 of 685

Thread: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

  1. #71
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Earnings of Educators in Chicago
    In May 2009 the mean annual wage estimate for teachers in Chicago was $62,240, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics. Wage estimates for postsecondary teachers ranged from $40,810 to $102,300. Ironically, postsecondary economics teachers were at the low end of this spectrum. Their counterparts in health specialties occupied the high end. While there were only 260 positions available for economics teachers, there were 390 spots available for health specialties teachers. Elementary, middle and secondary school teachers had a mean annual earnings range between $47,350 and $74,530.

    The mean annual statewide earnings for the teaching profession in Illinois came in at $57,000, according to May 2009 Bureau of Labor Statistics data. This is approximately 10 percent less than that of teachers working in Chicago. Postsecondary teachers had mean annual earnings of between $51,590 and $79,100. Both architecture and health specialties were the highest paying areas statewide. Teachers in elementary, middle and secondary schools had a mean annual earnings range of $45,380 to $67,960.

    The Average Salary of a Teacher in Chicago | eHow.com


    The CTU got its first written contract with the Board of Education in 1966, under the leadership of the late John Desmond:

    His tenure was marked by three-cornered battles waged by the union, the Chicago Board of Education and the Illinois General Assembly over the Chicago school budget. In his six years in office starting salaries for teachers went from $5,500 to $9,570.....snip~

    2010-2011: the CPS gives a starting salary of $50,577 for a first-year teacher with a bachelor's degree. But that's including the seven-percent "pension pickup," which comes from the Board of Education: it's compensation, obviously, but not money teachers get right now.

    Since that doesn't seem to be regularly included in the salaries quoted by news reports, it's probably better for comparison to subtract it, which can easily be done with the more detailed tables provided by CPS (PDF).

    If we do that, the starting salary is $47,628. The maximum, for a teacher with 20 years' experience and a doctorate, is $88,680 ($93,817 if you include the pension pickup). The average, according to the AP, is $69,000.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Chicago Teacher Salaries: The Long View - The 312 - June 2011 - Chicago


    Hard to believe it began in 1966.

  2. #72
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Here's some information that disputes that number and shows that the average salary is $54,000 a year. What you're talking about is an hourly package that includes all the costs.

    City Of Chicago School District 299 Average Teacher Salary & How to Become a Teacher
    That source is unacceptable. And it's incorrect.
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  3. #73
    Cynical Optimist
    jambalaya's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Columbia, SC
    Last Seen
    11-28-12 @ 05:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    2,481

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And there is the rub. A teacher can only work with the students they are given. In my high school where I taught, we gave all incoming ninth graders a math test to see where they were according to grade level skills so they could take mandated Algebra I. In an average class of 35 kids, the scores ranged all the way from second grade to tenth grade. The distribution was far from even with the average being around fifth grade. The vast vast vast majority of the 35 were not anywhere near grade level in basic arithmetic skills needed to handle Algebra.

    But now the administration says - teach them Algebra... here is your classroom .... here are your books ... here is your paycheck for doing this job.

    What is missing from the recipe?
    It appears that every level of school along the way just passes the buck.
    It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

  4. #74
    Sage
    jet57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    not here
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:52 AM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    24,681

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The median is 55k so either the salaries are heavily skewed or they are including positions and salaries beyond just teaching.
    Yeah, I found some sources on that, thanks. The management version is always the one you have to watch.
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

  5. #75
    Sage
    jet57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    not here
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:52 AM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    24,681

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That source is unacceptable. And it's incorrect.
    I have two independent sources that say exactly the same thing.
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

  6. #76
    Sage
    AliHajiSheik's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    6,373

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Draft the teachers into the army, then at least they will be eligible for combat pay.

  7. #77
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I have two independent sources that say exactly the same thing.
    So? Two more incorrect citations plus one incorrect citation still equals an incorrect citation.

    Chicago Public Schools : Stats and facts
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  8. #78
    Pontificator
    iliveonramen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    On a Gravy Train with Biscuit Wheels
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    9,158

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    They move to the suburbs out of the inner cities. Its used to be called "white flight" when racial motivated. Now it is for taxes, less regulations if a business and for better schools. And there are LOTS of rich in Alabama and Mississippi. But they also stay out of the spotlight.
    Actually there's a large move by young professionals back into downtown areas. The whole move to the suburbs demographi trend is starting to reverse.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

  9. #79
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    It appears that every level of school along the way just passes the buck.
    They did more than Pass it a way.....

    In July, leaders of the cash-starved Chicago Public Schools reluctantly returned $34 million in federal grant money targeted to develop a merit pay system for public school teachers.

    CPS officials had no choice. The federal money came with strings attached: CPS needed Chicago Teachers Union buy-in to develop the merit pay system. CTU President Karen Lewis refused. "We don't believe in merit pay," she said.


    CPS needs a merit pay system for teachers - Chicago Tribune

  10. #80
    Sage
    jet57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    not here
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:52 AM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    24,681

    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    So? Two more incorrect citations plus one incorrect citation still equals an incorrect citation.

    Chicago Public Schools : Stats and facts
    Maggie; honey those are total packages, not salary. Your same source says that administrators make $120,000. Now it's the same broke school district, with the same problems. So, that's okay with you?
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

Page 8 of 69 FirstFirst ... 6789101858 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •