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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Guess it's now the teachers union that is going to catch all the flack like the UAW did.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Let me give your debate technique a shot...no it's not...

    I'm sure my argument is just as effective...right?
    right

    I'm pretty much LMAO at you ya'know. Consider this: when you look at the pay schedule, you'll note that the PhDs make the most money. In order to make the most money, they have to be with the district for 20 years or more. Same thing with Masters or double Masters. So, in order for $75,000 to be that average, all of those teachers have to have advanced degrees or PhDs, and you and I both know that is not the case. Moreover, that money includes benefit payouts as well.

    It's how the right drinks the koolaid in these matters that is so entertaining; and downright sad. Sad in that, it's a sad commentary on our society that when people in a given profession take steps to improve the profession, the environment of the profession, and teh effect of the profession on its target and society arouind it, the right-wing just goes out of (your) way argue that they can't do that!!

    it's just ridiculous
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I dont take seriously any far right politician or cheerleader who tells me a few americans making a decent wage and some benefits are the cause of all the debt....I dont take seriously anyone that tells me teachers are overpaid...when you dont have a clue about what they reall go through...and lastly I dont take anyone seriously who believes that people are just going to lay down and take whatever a republican politician wants to hit them with....You like other far righters have gotten this thought in your head that whatever you want and believe has to be....think again my man...theres alot of "ME";s that dont bow to anyone
    Bold: you enjoy living in your fantasy world, unpaid liabilities are the biggest debt in a lot of cities and municipalities.

    One of my best friends is a teacher. Its not as bad as you portray but he doesnt work in Chicago which is rapidly turning into a cesspool.

    I do think. Its doesnt have anything to do with bowing down, it has to do with what we can pay for. Turn that around and take a sharp look in the mirror, you have a belligerent, bellicouse, caustic, might makes right view of the world when it comes to what you believe in, maybe youre just projecting.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    right

    I'm pretty much LMAO at you ya'know. Consider this: when you look at the pay schedule, you'll note that the PhDs make the most money. In order to make the most money, they have to be with the district for 20 years or more. Same thing with Masters or double Masters. So, in order for $75,000 to be that average, all of those teachers have to have advanced degrees or PhDs, and you and I both know that is not the case. Moreover, that money includes benefit payouts as well.

    It's how the right drinks the koolaid in these matters that is so entertaining; and downright sad. Sad in that, it's a sad commentary on our society that when people in a given profession take steps to improve the profession, the environment of the profession, and teh effect of the profession on its target and society arouind it, the right-wing just goes out of (your) way argue that they can't do that!!

    it's just ridiculous
    Looking at the payscheduele, you only need to wait about 10 years with a bachelor to receive 76K USD. With a master and 45 credits then it will only take 7 years. If you exclude pension, then the average is 71K USD so the numbers still make sense.

    BTW, when are you going to admit you were wrong that the average salary was 47K/54K? Or are you just going to run away like usual.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    Looking at the payscheduele, you only need to wait about 10 years with a bachelor to receive 76K USD. With a master and 45 credits then it will only take 7 years. If you exclude pension, then the average is 71K USD so the numbers still make sense.

    BTW, when are you going to admit you were wrong that the average salary was 47K/54K? Or are you just going to run away like usual.
    I'm not wrong at all. And no, I don;t run away.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I'm not wrong at all. And no, I don;t run away.
    On the last page I used your own source against you, then you tried desperately to use the teachers contract, and I used that against you as well. Then you chose to run away and not respond.

    You were wrong. Just admit it, publc school teachers do not earn 54K / 47K. They earn 76K.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    On the last page I used your own source against you, then you tried desperately to use the teachers contract, and I used that against you as well. Then you chose to run away and not respond.

    You were wrong. Just admit it, publc school teachers do not earn 54K / 47K. They earn 76K.
    I didn't use anything desperately; so knock it off. I found another source that validates my argument. Moreover, now its $76 large?

    You make it up as you go along.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Binky View Post
    Guess it's now the teachers union that is going to catch all the flack like the UAW did.
    That's exactly what's happening. It's a concerted effort by America's business plan being carried out by the greedy and supported by the ignorant.
    Last edited by jet57; 09-17-12 at 04:09 PM.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    That's exactly what's happening. It's a concerted effort by America's business plan being carried out by the greedy and supported by the ignorant.
    Dont pay attention to the numbers, stick it to the man. Hes GREEEEEDY and EEEEEVIIIIILLL.

    Listen to me not your lying eyes!

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    I didn't use anything desperately; so knock it off. I found another source that validates my argument.
    What kind of denial is this? Do I need to link to you the payscale again that I got from your own source?

    Moreover, now its $76 large? You make it up as you go along.
    76K is what they earn if you are not excluding pension contributions. If you exclude it, it is still 71K. Nowhere close to 54K or 47K.

    Where is your non-debunked source that they are earning 54K or 47K?
    Last edited by Camlon; 09-17-12 at 04:39 PM.

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