Those evil Unions! How dare individuals collectively bargain!
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If the teachers' union were really looking out for the students? They would include student discipline in their demands. I could sure support them 1000% on that. Three strikes, you're out on your ass -- and let the kids who want to learn have a safe/conducive environment to do so. If they hammered that point home? I cannot imagine a scenerio that would include their not having full community support.
Many of Chicago's public schools are little more than baby-sitting services for gang bangers and gang-banger-wanna be's.
Thank you, Quazi!
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Sheesh, my wife has worked 13 yrs with nothing but Excellent Evaluations and she only makes 65k. Plus she works from like 7:15am until 430-5pm. Plus the public schools wouldnt count all her time teaching at Bishop Knoll. Which was another 10. Not to mention thats not counting her getting riffed 3 times and twice Right about when she was going to make tenure. Being at the school for 3 yrs. Or them changing when one became Tenured from like 3 yrs to 4 yrs.
Steger School District pulled that one on her.
The fact that this is the first time in 25 years says something. Strikes like this happen when managements try and take advantage of a given situation; like this economy, and then call unions crazy for thinking of a strike. There's nothing new here. The same thing happened during the depression.
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Here's what seems the relevant facts - discounting the whatever-the-union-wants supporters and unions-are-always-wrong union haters.
1. The school district is hundreds of millions of dollars in the hole, with even more debt than that.
2. The average teacher's salary is around $75,000 - meaning with health and retirement benefits and perks it approaches $100,000 a year.
3. The teachers work 27 1/2 hours a week - with 12 weeks vacation including the entirety of the Christmas - New Years holiday.
4. No one in the private or public sector works so few of full time hours or has as much vacation.
5. The average salary for people of similar level of education in the area is not $75/$100K a year.
6. 1 out of 8 people in the area are unemployed or seriously under-employed - not counting those who have given up looking for a job.
In response to the school district saying teachers will have to start working 35 hours a week, the teachers want annual pay increases of approximately $11,000 over the next 4 years. They are now on strike for that pay raise.
The private sector would address this by giving notice of:
1. At the end of the week they will offer all teachers' positions as available to be permanently filled at the wages and benefits being offered by the city to the teachers.
2. For any position filled, the teacher that had the position has lost his/her job to the new hire permanent replacement.
3. There will be no back pay during the strike for those teachers who do later return if their position has not been filled.
Within 4 to 6 weeks, most positions would have been filled and those not would be filled by teachers flocking back to save their jobs - when in fact virtually none could find private sector jobs paying 1/3rd what they make now take-home as teachers. I suspect most would be working part-time as waitresses/waiters, fry cooks and Wal-Mart stockers $1.50 above minimum wage with no benefits whatsoever. They would figure that out quick enough as they tried to find jobs to make up the lost income during the strike.
However, because the mayor is a "pro-labor" Democrat he doesn't have that option. Given how crappy the Chicago educational system is, I think even the people of Chicago will have little sympathy for them.
Are any of my facts above inaccurate?
Last edited by joko104; 09-10-12 at 11:57 AM.