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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

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    As a person who sat on the table during these proceedings - the answer is a definitive and loud YES.
    I think you were asleep at those proceeding just like some of those bad teachers sleeping in class and reading the news paper when he/she is supposed to be teaching.

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    I think you were asleep at those proceeding just like some of those bad teachers sleeping in class and reading the news paper when he/she is supposed to be teaching.
    How does making a wiseguy personal attack on me negate reality?
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How does making a wiseguy personal attack on me negate reality?
    This is reality which you wished to ignore

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    More reality

    http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/a...a-dcps-teacher
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    What "reality is that"? Your two "sources" are actually the same source since the second duplicates part of the first.

    Do you realize that BOTH SIDES agree to the procedures on how to fire teachers?
    Do you realize that the process is there to protect the rights of both sides?
    Do you realize that numbers of teachers are indeed fired every year all over this country?
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What "reality is that"?
    More reality that you can't fire a bad teacher

    How to Fire an Incompetent Teacher - Reason.com

    And more

    http://teachersunionexposed.com/bargaining.cfm

    And more

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/may...l/me-teachers3

    Now this is really good reading. And you tell me you can fire a union teacher.

    http://choicemedia.tv/2012/08/30/ca-...orst-teachers/
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Your article lays the blame at the feet of administrators who through their own laziness or incompetence cannot follow established procedures agreed to by both sides.

    The regulations are so onerous that principals rarely even try to fire a teacher. Most just put the bad ones in pretend-work jobs, or sucker another school into taking them
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    "When schoolchildren start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children."
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your article lays the blame at the feet of administrators who through their own laziness or incompetence cannot follow established procedures agreed to by both sides.
    that's cute. unionistas use their power to make it nigh on impossible to fire any of their members, and then blame administrators when they don't manage to fire that many.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your article lays the blame at the feet of administrators who through their own laziness or incompetence cannot follow established procedures agreed to by both sides.
    You know, you just don't get it. Public sector unions have been given wage packages and benefits and these non fire rules in exchange for their vote.

    And here you lay the blame at an administrator. What BS. If you can't climb Mount Everest you can't fire a teacher. Yep it's all the administrator's fault because he/she could not climb Mount Everest to be able to fire a teacher.

    "The regulations are so onerous that principals rarely even try to fire a teacher. Most just put the bad ones in pretend-work jobs, or sucker another school into taking them"
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How does making a wiseguy personal attack on me negate reality?
    More reality for you.

    CA Union Kills Bill to Fire Worst Teachers

    Reprinted from CNN

    Los Angeles (CNN) -- Allegations of lewd acts committed by a teacher on students in a Los Angeles-area elementary school sent shockwaves across the community last year.

    But the outrage didn't end there. Amid a year-long police investigation involving dozens of photos showing the alleged acts, the school district -- faced with strict state rules -- could not fire the teacher.

    Instead, it paid him $40,000 to quit his job.


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