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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    The vermin exploiting children

    Chicago Teachers Union uses students in strike protest - YouTube

    Where is the president on this? The clock is ticking.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
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    There is nothing lower than somebody who insults teachers. I mean, really, school teachers. You hate school teachers? If you did poorly in school, that was your fault, not your teacher's fault. Get over it already.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by NitroHangover View Post
    There IS a special obligation. I can only speak on behalf of firefighters, but it is against our oath to abandon the people we serve... EVER. We just don't do it. There have been many instances where entire departments have been shut down or barred by local governments from performing their duties in certain jurisdictions for political or budgetary reasons, but when the calls came in, those firemen still showed up in their civilian vehicles, ready to protect and serve... for no money.

    There has only been one mass Fire Department strike in the US. It is an embarrassing stain in the history of our profession, a gross show of negligence which set FD's back horribly in terms of public trust for a long time. Incidentally, anyone wanna guess where it happened? Thaaaaaat's right. In Chicago.
    Emergency services and whatnot usually make a trade. They give up their right to collective bargaining in exchange for other mechanisms designed to give them a more level playing field when negotiating compensation. For example, in many states, emergency workers get several elected seats on the committees that decide compensation issues. Teachers don't have anything like that, so this is their only way to stand up for themselves.
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    Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    There is nothing lower than somebody who insults teachers. I mean, really, school teachers. You hate school teachers? If you did poorly in school, that was your fault, not your teacher's fault. Get over it already.
    What makes insulting teachers lower than insulting anyone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    What makes insulting teachers lower than insulting anyone else?
    That they are people who have made the commitment to sacrifice their career possibilities to the noble goal of educating our children. Duh. It's like insulting veterans or nuns or something. Just pathetic.
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    Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Sacrifice their career possibilities? Oh please, they do nothing more than most parents should be doing. And considering the dropout rate and kids skill in math and reading, they havent really sacrificed anything anyone else hasnt for their occupation.

    Part of the problem with our education is people putting teachers on pedastals.

    I guess if kids were actually graduating with an education I might think different.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The vermin exploiting children

    Chicago Teachers Union uses students in strike protest - YouTube

    Where is the president on this? The clock is ticking.
    According to Carney Obama stands with the parents and Children. Course later Carney's remarks implied that Obama stood with the Union.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    That they are people who have made the commitment to sacrifice their career possibilities to the noble goal of educating our children. Duh. It's like insulting veterans or nuns or something. Just pathetic.
    Those that can't make it in the real world, teach. Sorry, but teachers are normally not people you'd want to take after. This strike proves that.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Yeah, I think it is about the money. And good for them. Again, teachers are a radically undervalued and underpaid profession. It is an intellectually and emotionally demanding jobs. It is one of the most important jobs in our society. It requires far more education than the typical job to get. And yet we pay for it like we pay for managing a Starbucks. It is a travesty and I am glad that these folks are willing to take the risks and accept the costs of fighting to correct that.
    Chicago union teachers are making an average of $46 an hour. And generating some of the worse education results in the nation. They are striking for more pay, more benefits, and more job security.

    As a whole, just don't think the public sympathy is going to be out there for them if this drags on at all.....


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    Well yesterday Emanuel's front man had to get up and walkout. This Lewis and the Union.....stated Nationally the sticking point was on the Evaluations. Then all day yesterday she did was argue for more healthcare benefits and then about other issue concerning School facilities.

    I thought it was about the kids!
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