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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Moreover if Schools do not make AYP in consecutive years. Schools end up in school improvement or corrective action. Which means the State or the City can come straight in to straighten things out.

    The point is to try and discover those kids that do need help and not just pass them down the line without the understanding they need.

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    Call of the Wild was definately an easier read than the Rings trilogy, though. Never read Heidi, or Across Five Aprils. I can't remember when I read Call of the Wild...but I CAN remember I had a lot easier time reading it. Not trying to argue, I just would like a few more examples of 8th grade level books. Canticle for Lebowitz? Where does 1984 fall? That one was pretty easy, too. Honestly, I had a harder time with Shakespeare. Required more concentration.
    1984 would probably be 8-9th. I remember Of Mice and Men is around a 6th grade level. The one author I can think of whose books are most likely 10-11th level is Nathaniel Hawthorne (Scarlet Letter, The House of Seven Gables, etc.) I bet Dickens novels would be 8th or above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    You cannot blame the failures of parents on that of educators. About 1/3 of high school drop outs occur in 9th grade!!
    I see so it is the parents fault then... to a certain extent I agree with that... but a teacher has to be able to motivate their class... and if they cannot dropouts become an issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    1984 would probably be 8-9th. I remember Of Mice and Men is around a 6th grade level. The one author I can think of whose books are most likely 10-11th level is Nathaniel Hawthorne (Scarlet Letter, The House of Seven Gables, etc.)
    Read Scarlet Letter, didn't much like it. How about Tale of Two Cities? Hated that book, too, though, lol. I liked American Pastoral, though. Actually, I kinda like ALL of Phillip Roth's novels....although I think he's likely a horrible person in real life.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    OK, according to their own budget



    This is non capital expenditure.

    They have 404,151 students...

    which means total per student non-capital expenditure is 5,110,000,000/404,151= 12,643.79

    This lower expenditure is because of a $712,000,000 deficit... there are still plenty of good schools that can be had with a 10K/student tuition.
    I imagine ya'll are talking about a voucher system. That would have to pass the state legislature here in Illinois. It's come up twice, I believe, in the past two years. Both times, it's been defeated. The teachers' unions will throw millions toward defeating any voucher program. Since the legislature here in Illinois is Democratic? A voucher system stands a slim-to-none chance of going anywhere.

    BTW, just for sake of getting facts out there? 39% of Chicago Public School teachers (who must live in the city of Chicago, by the way) send their children to private schools (as of 2004). But, then, they can afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The 16% number came from Rahm Emanuel's press conference last night. It takes into account the whole of the four-year contract.
    Ok...then I take back totally what I said...about them walking out...I dont know enough about it...thanks mag

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Read Scarlet Letter, didn't much like it. How about Tale of Two Cities? Hated that book, too, though, lol. I liked American Pastoral, though. Actually, I kinda like ALL of Phillip Roth's novels....although I think he's likely a horrible person in real life.
    A Tale of Two Cities would most likely be above 8th grade level. I never read it, so it's just a guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Doesnt matter if you consider this a Fraud or Not. Does this change the way the State looks at it and the City of Chicago?

    Because my wifes school made Ayp in Math but not Reading. Plus this does not stop those teachers from passing kids who clearly will be behind going into the next grade!
    A school who starts out with very low scores has lots of room to make AYP if they sho improvement even if it is still relatively low. A school which has much higher base year scores will have it much harder to continue to make AYP even though they are doing a better job on the scores than the first school.

    Does that make sense to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    OK, according to their own budget



    This is non capital expenditure.

    They have 404,151 students...

    which means total per student non-capital expenditure is 5,110,000,000/404,151= 12,643.79

    This lower expenditure is because of a $712,000,000 deficit... there are still plenty of good schools that can be had with a 10K/student tuition.
    Those numbers are radically different than your Young republicans site.
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