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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    AYP is a fraud. It concerns me not in the least. If people knew how it really worked and the assumptions built into it they would trash it.
    Then educate them. Us. That's the job of someone in the education system, wouldn't you say?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    There are lots of problems. Public sector unions are a major source of problems-especially when they are major contributors to the politicians in charge. Incompetent people having children is another-and the public schools are forced to deal with the problems created by stupid, uncaring, drug addicted or irresponsible parents. This is compounded by the fact that kids who come from supportive backgrounds can often escape the lowest common denominator classes and go to private or magnet schools meaning that the teachers in many public schools are stuck with the incapable and the unteachable

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    A 40% drop out rate, and a 20% functional illiteracy rate to start with.
    You cannot blame the failures of parents on that of educators. About 1/3 of high school drop outs occur in 9th grade!!
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What is 8th grade reading level, out of curiosity?


    I remember, in the 8th grade, I read the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I was also big into the Dragon Lance books, in those days. I was a tiny bit of a nerd.
    Most novels, newspapers, magazines are written below an 8th grade level. I remember reading an article once talking about the scripts of sitcoms and how they're written on about a 3rd grade reading level (The Big Bang Theory excluded... ). 8th grade level would be like The Call of the Wild, Across Five Aprils, Heidi. The Lord of the Rings trilogy was probably written on a 5th - 6th grade level.


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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    AYP is a fraud. It concerns me not in the least. If people knew how it really worked and the assumptions built into it they would trash it.
    Doesnt matter if you consider this a Fraud or Not. Does this change the way the State looks at it and the City of Chicago?

    Because my wifes school made Ayp in Math but not Reading. Plus this does not stop those teachers from passing kids who clearly will be behind going into the next grade!

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What you read isn't true. The teachers were presented an offer than includes a 3% increase for this year and a 2% increase for each of the next three years -- guaranteed. They also get step/lane increases which don't change from the last contract. Those average about 3.5% a year, as I understand it. Teachers earn an average of $73,351 a year. How Much Do Chicago Public School Teachers Make? CBS Chicago

    This isnt the exact site that I read it from...It might have been drudge this is obviously a right wing site...I saw these figures on a few sites

    Humboldt Republicans: CHICAGO TEACHERS WALK OUT, TURN DOWN 16% PAY RAISE

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    This isnt the exact site that I read it from...It might have been drudge this is obviously a right wing site...I saw these figures on a few sites

    Humboldt Republicans: CHICAGO TEACHERS WALK OUT, TURN DOWN 16% PAY RAISE
    The 16% number came from Rahm Emanuel's press conference last night. It takes into account the whole of the four-year contract.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I want to change the system. As you know from our previous conversation Maggie, I would completely and utterly scrap the entire system and start over from scratch.
    OK, according to their own budget

    Quote Originally Posted by CPS Budget PDF

    In addition, the CPS FY2012 operating budget is expected to be $5.11 billion, up from $4.94 billion in FY2011, an
    increase of $163 million dollars at a time when revenues are declining.
    This is non capital expenditure.

    They have 404,151 students...

    which means total per student non-capital expenditure is 5,110,000,000/404,151= 12,643.79

    This lower expenditure is because of a $712,000,000 deficit... there are still plenty of good schools that can be had with a 10K/student tuition.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Most novels, newspapers, magazines are written below an 8th grade level. I remember reading an article once talking about the scripts of sitcoms and how they're written on about a 3rd grade reading level (The Big Bang Theory excluded... ). 8th grade level would be like The Call of the Wild, Across Five Aprils, Heidi. The Lord of the Rings trilogy was probably written on a 5th - 6th grade level.
    Call of the Wild was definately an easier read than the Rings trilogy, though. Never read Heidi, or Across Five Aprils. I can't remember when I read Call of the Wild...but I CAN remember I had a lot easier time reading it. Not trying to argue, I just would like a few more examples of 8th grade level books. Canticle for Lebowitz? Where does 1984 fall? That one was pretty easy, too. Honestly, I had a harder time with Shakespeare. Required more concentration.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    You cannot blame the failures of parents on that of educators. About 1/3 of high school drop outs occur in 9th grade!!
    NW indiana? Like elkhart?
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