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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Maybe someone better at math than I can figure this one out...


    About how much does it cost, PER student, to have public schools?

    Why not, instead, have a public education FUND, pool that money, at the very least...and let PARENTS hire private tutors.


    Likely, the kids get a better education, costs the parents LESS, AND the private tutors likely get paid more if they are any good...and....as a bonus, it puts LOTS of people to work...to the tune of a tutor per every household.


    Over simplified, but I think this gets the point across about public school as it currently stands, yes?
    The Charter Schools are public and the Teachers didn't strike. Which they really do need more of these type Schools. Also concerning the Other post. I added it to the mix since CPS schools are tied to City Politics. Besides the States General Assembly.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I believe that teaching kids to read is more important.
    And what should they read ABOUT?

    You remove at least a basic music and art history, and you will end up with an ignorant society.


    But this is a non issue, in my opinion. Because it doesn't HAVE to be a choice. SHOULDN'T have to be a choice. We should not be forced to CHOOSE which are children learn...math, or music. We should have an education system that is more than competent enough to, I don't know...handle both?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    I think it's pretty easy, we keep pouring more and more money into our classroom with less and less results. The teachers unions protect teachers, not the students. The teachers unions could care less about the students. You can't fire a bad teacher, now tell me they care about the students. Teachers unions only have thing in mind, exchange their vote for higher wages, benefits, and shorter hours..
    None of what you said provides any evidence in any way shape or form that teachers are failing. Your statements about not being able to fire bad teachers are grossly false in the extreme.

    No offense to you but you sound just like some armchair quarterback a hundred pounds overweight who never played the game who thinks they know more about it than the guys in uniform.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As a person who sat on the table during these proceedings - the answer is a definitive and loud YES.
    Yeah? Then answer this? What did the teachers being fired do to get it, and if it was for poor performance, how long, pray tell, did said teacher have to be an issue, before the issue got dealt with?

    And as a matter of curiosity, how much influence did parents have on such a situation...as in, parents complaining about their kid not being able to read, or what not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    By what measure are they succeeding, lol?
    that was not the allegation. Nice try in moving the goal posts however.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What evidence do you have that the teachers are failing?
    A 40% drop out rate, and a 20% functional illiteracy rate to start with.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Yeah? Then answer this? What did the teachers being fired do to get it, and if it was for poor performance, how long, pray tell, did said teacher have to be an issue, before the issue got dealt with?

    And as a matter of curiosity, how much influence did parents have on such a situation...as in, parents complaining about their kid not being able to read, or what not?
    Since teachers are evaluated on an annual basis - it obviously took place during one year of time period.

    Parents have a huge impact on their children's education.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that was not the allegation. Nice try in moving the goal posts however.
    Well...if a teach is not failing, they they, by default, must be succeeding.


    You asserted that they were NOT failing, by asking HOW they were failing...so I countered, by asking you how they were succeeding.


    Nice attempt at a dodge, though.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    A 40% drop out rate, and a 20% functional illiteracy rate to start with.
    Why does that tell you that classroom teachers are failing and NOT the inherent structure of the system that allows students to fail as a matter of the simple price we pay for the system being the way it is?
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Strike 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Since teachers are evaluated on an annual basis - it obviously took place during one year of time period.

    Parents have a huge impact on their children's education.
    I am well aware that a parent has a huge impact one their child's education.


    That's not what I asked, though. I asked how much of an impact a parent has on a teacher's job.
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