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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Except if China does it then that's the perfect reason why we shouldn't do it.

    DUH!!!

    You see, the Chinese are godless commies whose souls have been seduced by Satan to be godless commies.

    But that's not America. No.

    The country of America had it's Constitution handed to George Washington by the Jesus Christ the Son of God Himself as the perfect way to live on this Earth since America is One Nation Under God.

    So if a godless commie Chinaman is telling an American to do something, it's because he's using the powers of temptation of Lucifer to get that American to do it.

    And if Lucifer wants an American to do something that means, as a proper Christian that all Americans are, we should do the opposite.

    Which means the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost wants us to tear up the highways, railways, and subways.

    Why? I don't know. After all, God works in mysterious ways.

    But all I know is that what we shouldn't do is what Satan is counting on us to do.

    So I would say that that Chinaman president can go to HELL!!! But, being a godless commie and all, that's pretty self-evident anyways.

    It's in the Bible, after all, which the best work on government I've ever read.
    I can just hear the roars in the stadiums ;P. More in one than the other.

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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    BECAUSE, as Harshaw pointed out, we have a government that is more interested in wealth redistribution than actually accomplising anything worthwhile.
    Obama proposed $140 billion in spending on infrastructure about a year ago. It was Paul Ryan and his budget plans that attempted to halt this action. But continue to drone on about how Obama wants to redistribute wealth and such. In fact, why don't you just copy paste that quote to every thread? Save yourself the time of typing, you're going to sound like a broken record no matter how you decide to spice it up.

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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Just came across this article today at YahooNews and wondered, "if China can do it, why can't America?" since we are the greatest, richest, most modern country in the world! Why is it so damned hard for us to get our act together and start doing some nation building at home to boost our economy?



    If I hadn't read the article, I'd swear those words were spoken by President Obama. But there weren't. They were spoken by Chinese President Hu Jintao at the annual Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit.

    China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery - Yahoo! News

    C'mon, America! Get your act together!!
    Obama had a Jobs Package to build the infrastructure but this was blocked by the Republicans.

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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Agreed, but this thread isn't about bashing social safety nets. It's about getting this country moving again through job creation and the best way forward IS by doing some nation building here at home. So, again I ask if China can do it, why can we?
    But the social safety nets are the reason the country isn't moving. That's the point. They all need to be reformed. Then we can talk about the rest of the stuff you mentioned. Citizens want to have their cake and eat it too. Which is it? Do you want the current SS, Medicare, and the ACA or do you want better infrastructure? With the current standards, its one or the other.
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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Infrastructure helps a place like China because China is still a developing country. Many places are not connected by quality roads, bridges, electricity, dams, sewers, etc. Infrastructure spending in China actually improves and facilitates commerce and economic activity. The US is a developed country where infrastructure spending only repairs what is already there and does nothing to facilitate economic activity. So what works for them wont do much for us.
    Sure it would. Things get old and decay and if the US doesn't spend on fixing and replacing infrastructure then it will fall into decay and then China will be brand new and the US will be crumbling and falling apart from within.

    It's the construction industry that needs the boost because that is where most of the jobs were before the economy tanked. So it kinda makes sense to fund infrastructure projects to create jobs since it invovles construction.

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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by frogloe View Post
    Obama proposed $140 billion in spending on infrastructure about a year ago. It was Paul Ryan and his budget plans that attempted to halt this action. But continue to drone on about how Obama wants to redistribute wealth and such. In fact, why don't you just copy paste that quote to every thread? Save yourself the time of typing, you're going to sound like a broken record no matter how you decide to spice it up.
    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Obama had a Jobs Package to build the infrastructure but this was blocked by the Republicans.
    Oh, you mean the one that would have allowed the creation of the "National Infrastructure Bank". So, we would have the FDIC, the Federal Reserve, and now this, to filter money through for Federal spending. Yep, that's what we need. More regulations. More centralized control of our tax payer dollars. More gov't employees having GSA type conferences in Las Vegas complete with fancy hotels and room service. Do you guys even read these bills or what? Not to mention that he proposed paying for part of it by using the payroll tax. Last time I checked, Social Security was already going bankrupt. Now, with this plan, it would go bankrupt even faster because President Obama is doing what every POTUS since President Reagan has done. Use the payroll tax as a gov't grab bag. A couple of other notes on this.
    1) The GOP also presented a Jobs Act in the House to much less fanfare.
    2) The Dems didn't even support his Jobs Act.
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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Sure it would. Things get old and decay and if the US doesn't spend on fixing and replacing infrastructure then it will fall into decay and then China will be brand new and the US will be crumbling and falling apart from within.

    It's the construction industry that needs the boost because that is where most of the jobs were before the economy tanked. So it kinda makes sense to fund infrastructure projects to create jobs since it invovles construction.
    With what money?
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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    With what money?
    With the money we save on defense spending and raising the capital gains tax on the wealthy and closing the loopholes so corporations have to pay taxes, too.

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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Just came across this article today at YahooNews and wondered, "if China can do it, why can't America?" since we are the greatest, richest, most modern country in the world! Why is it so damned hard for us to get our act together and start doing some nation building at home to boost our economy?

    If I hadn't read the article, I'd swear those words were spoken by President Obama. But there weren't. They were spoken by Chinese President Hu Jintao at the annual Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit.

    China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery - Yahoo! News

    C'mon, America! Get your act together!!



    China is currently sitting on an infrastructure bubble that makes our housing bubble look relatively piddling by comparison. You know how we had empty housing developments? China has empty cities.


    Hu is in trouble. We shouldn't be worried about China passing us by as the worlds' replacement superpower, we should be worried about what happens when they realize that they won't.

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    Re: China's president says infrastructure development key to recovery

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    With the money we save on defense spending and raising the capital gains tax on the wealthy and closing the loopholes so corporations have to pay taxes, too.



    1. Defense spending is currently at a historical low, and has already been slashed to levels that the Presidents' own administration has labled "dangerous".
    2. Raising tax rates won't increase revenue.

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