Sheesh!!! You're like the Bayonne Bleeder trying to make it through that 15th Round against Ali. As has been repeatedly explained, there is no distinction between jobs saved and jobs created in the CBO and other analyses of ARRA's overall peformance. Those reports are all consistent with some 3+ million jobs being present in the economy that would not have been without ARRA, but there was no attempt made to determine which of those were saved jobs and which were created jobs. Is that REALLY such a difficult thing to understand???