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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    That IS the point. Not everyone that claims to have disorders ARE disordered.
    On the other hand, if a person wants to have the lopitoffome performed, that's pretty much positive confirmation of a GID diagnosis. Nobody healthy is going to subject themselves to hormone treatments and the removal of their genitalia for the nominal 'improvement' of being transferred to a womens' prison.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    That IS the point. Not everyone that claims to have disorders ARE disordered.
    On the other hand, if a person wants to have the lopitoffome performed, that's pretty much positive confirmation of a GID diagnosis. Nobody healthy is going to subject themselves to hormone treatments and the removal of their genitalia for the nominal 'improvement' of being transferred to a womens' prison.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't doubt that he has some kind of "disorder" but MA taxpayers should NOT have to pay for this. It is so effing ridiculous.
    Whether he has a disorder or not is totally irrelevant. There is no justifiable NEED for this individual to have a sex-change operation. There is no justifiable NEED for ANY individual to have a sex-change operation. If they can't or won't pay for it themselves, too bad.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Whether he has a disorder or not is totally irrelevant. There is no justifiable NEED for this individual to have a sex-change operation. There is no justifiable NEED for ANY individual to have a sex-change operation. If they can't or won't pay for it themselves, too bad.
    Yes, that was my point.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Right, and so you're saying a guy in a prison decided he wanted his dick cut off because he didn't want to live with his mum?
    Just responding to your comment. How did it go? "Just like a schizophrenic is pretending to hear voice. Or a person with Bi-polar is pretending to have mood swings" followed by the rolled eyes which at least IMPLIES that they arent 'pretending' at all. Simple fact is...many of them are...and do.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    On the other hand, if a person wants to have the lopitoffome performed, that's pretty much positive confirmation of a GID diagnosis. Nobody healthy is going to subject themselves to hormone treatments and the removal of their genitalia for the nominal 'improvement' of being transferred to a womens' prison.
    Someone else mentioned that it might be a pretty solid ploy to get placed in a womens prison since he knows thats where he is going to end up for the rest of his life. I doubt people will be rushing to commit crimes so they can have a Bobbitectomy. But in this particular case do I think he might be playing the system? Yep...sure...its possible. I dont know the guy...never interviewed the guy.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    But don't they have to have some type of mental disorder to fake a mental disorder?
    No...the are malingerers. They simply know how to play the system. The tragic reality is we drain so many resources on the malingerers that there arent enough resources...or case workers...to adequately care for those truly in need. Case management workloads are skyrocketing. Doctor patient caseloads are really unmanageable beyond "here...try this for two months and come back and see me"

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Just responding to your comment. How did it go? "Just like a schizophrenic is pretending to hear voice. Or a person with Bi-polar is pretending to have mood swings" followed by the rolled eyes which at least IMPLIES that they arent 'pretending' at all. Simple fact is...many of them are...and do.
    If they're pretending, then they're not mentally ill. My post was referencing people who are genuinely ill. And if someone's going for gender reassignment surgery, it's pretty good odds they're not pretending.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    If they're pretending, then they're not mentally ill. My post was referencing people who are genuinely ill. And if someone's going for gender reassignment surgery, it's pretty good odds they're not pretending.
    Sigh...I get it. That was the point. Not everyone diagnosed 'is'. And as for the murderer in question...it wouldnt be the first murderer to decide they wanted a sex change operation...

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Im not claiming that she was born a she. Im saying her gender identity is female and by getting hormones and surgery she isnt pretending to be something she is not. In fact she is finally NOT pretending to be something she isnt. Gender identity has nothing to do with whats between your legs.
    A she is someone with xx chromosomes,has a uterus and a vagina.The man in the OP has none of those things,he doesn't even have a fake vagina. So yes he is pretending to be something he isn't.I suspect he is merely trying to get transferred to a women's prison, he would rather look like a woman in prison than to be treated like a woman in prison.
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