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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I disagree with this ruling because she's in prison for killing her ex-wife and **** her-- but that doesn't really provide an excuse for the kind of bigoted and medically ignorant bull**** that people are spouting about the transgendered.

    We, as a morally just society, have an obligation to provide for the medical care of people that we have taken into custody because we are, directly, preventing them from being able to secure their own medical care. But I don't think for one second that such medical care should extend beyond the care they would receive if they had not been convicted felons-- if she needed a new heart or a new knee in order to service her rehabilitation, I would support paying for that, but she should be forced to pay for her own ladyparts.
    Only quibble i have with this post is the claim that our society is morally just lol. Perhaps that is the ideal we aspire to, but it's an ideal that doesn't exist.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    For ****s sake :
    You don't think that forcing the prison system to provide expensive healthcare, that is otherwise inaccessible, presents a very real moral hazard?

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    You don't think that forcing the prison system to provide expensive healthcare, that is otherwise inaccessible, presents a very real moral hazard?
    I was commenting on how it's a stupid assertion that transgender people will commit crimes in order to go to prison to receive medical care.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I was commenting on how it's a stupid assertion that transgender people will commit crimes in order to go to prison to receive medical care.
    No different than saying that they'll commit crimes in order to get the money to do it-- and that's happened before.

    It's the most fundamental principle of economics. If a person wants something, they are going to pursue the most effective means of obtaining it-- and if all legitimate means of obtaining that object are closed off, they will turn to illegitimate means.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    No different than saying that they'll commit crimes in order to get the money to do it-- and that's happened before.

    It's the most fundamental principle of economics. If a person wants something, they are going to pursue the most effective means of obtaining it-- and if all legitimate means of obtaining that object are closed off, they will turn to illegitimate means.
    And going to prison is not the most effective means of obtaining GCS. It's ridiculous to claim such things, and is in no way logical.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The people of MA seem to be okay with a lot of this sort of nonsense. As long as no federal funds are being used, I say let them spend their money on whatever stupid thing their heart's desire.
    NO, the majority of people in MA are NOT alright with this sort of nonsense. The problem is that the majority of people in this Communistwealth are unwilling to speak up because every time they have, they get told to sit down, shut the hell up, do what they're told and LIKE IT by the consortium of Liberal Socialists who run the Communistwealth. So much so that most people aren't willing to even stand up anymore.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    NO, I'm in MA and I'm NOT alright with this sort of nonsense. The problem I am unwilling to speak up because every time I have, I get told to sit down, shut the hell up, do what I'm told and LIKE IT by the consortium of Liberal Socialists who run the Communistwealth. So much so that I'm not willing to even stand up anymore.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

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    And going to prison is not the most effective means of obtaining GCS. It's ridiculous to claim such things, and is in no way logical.
    Yeah? And how else are you going to do it, if you can't afford the procedure and don't have the kind of health insurance that would cover it? It's crazy, but people do crazy things when they don't see better options.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Yeah? And how else are you going to do it, if you can't afford the procedure and don't have the kind of health insurance that would cover it? It's crazy, but people do crazy things when they don't see better options.
    So someone is going to go kill someone because they can't afford GCS? Doesn't make sense, and the prison isn't going to approve that surgery for a petty crime with a short sentence. It just doesn't make sense, and a lot of trans people realize that this cost is big, and save up for it. So yeah, it takes some absurd logic to reach that conclusion.
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