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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    If the convict's evidence included medical reasons and was presented in solid form the judge may not have had much of a choice going by the 8th amendment.

    The judge is reaching into the ind of the inmate and ordering the surgery to relive "mental anguish". I have a very difficult time with the setting this precedent. The linchpin argument is based on a self reported basis and there are no clear guidelines. This case is a Pandora's Box and can open the door for more cases seeking relief based upon self reported "mental anguish".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The judge is reaching into the ind of the inmate and ordering the surgery to relive "mental anguish". I have a very difficult time with the setting this precedent. The linchpin argument is based on a self reported basis and there are no clear guidelines. This case is a Pandora's Box and can open the door for more cases seeking relief based upon self reported "mental anguish".
    The inmate would have had to have presented convincing medical evidence so I'm sure some Docs signed off on the mental anguish qualifier but like I said, the ruling is BS.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Now everybody who wants this type of surgery, can commit a crime, go to prison and get free treatment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Now everybody who wants this type of surgery, can commit a crime, go to prison and get free treatment.
    I don't think many people will trade life in prison for a genital adjustment.

    I do remember the guy who robbed a bank for $1 then sat down in the lobby and waited for the police to arrest him because he needed treatment he could not afford.
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    Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    This is a special kind of stupid.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    FYI this guy is a Reagan appointee:

    Wolf was a lecturer at Harvard Law School from 1989 to 1990, and a lecturer at Boston College Law School in 1992.
    Wolf was nominated by President Ronald Reagan on March 8, 1985, to a new seat created by 98 Stat. 333. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on April 3, 1985, and received his commission on April 4, 1985. Wolf has served as chief judge for the District Court for the District of Massachusetts since 2006.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Tax payers in Massachusetts should be furious. If a man wants to pretend to be something he is not then let him do it on his own dime.

    Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate | Fox News

    A federal judge on Tuesday ordered state prison officials to provide taxpayer-funded sex-reassignment surgery to a transgender inmate serving life in prison for murder.
    Michelle Kosilek was born male but has received hormone treatments and now lives as a woman in an all-male prison. Robert Kosilek was convicted of murder in the killing of his wife in 1990.
    U.S. District Judge Mark Wolf is believed to be the first federal judge to order prison officials to provide sex-reassignment surgery for a transgender inmate.
    Kosilek first sued the Massachusetts Department of Correction 12 years ago. Two years later, Wolf ruled that Kosilek was entitled to treatment for gender-identity disorder but stopped short of ordering surgery. Kosilek sued again in 2005, arguing that the surgery is a medical necessity.
    In his ruling Tuesday, Wolf found that surgery is the "only adequate treatment" for Kosilek's "serious medical need."
    "The court finds that there is no less intrusive means to correct the prolonged violation of Kosilek's Eighth Amendment right to adequate medical care," Wolf wrote in his 126-page ruling.
    She isnt pretending to be anything she isnt. However I agree with the overall point in your post. Even though I believe that SRS is medically necessary to treat GID I dont believe that it should be done on the taxpayers dime.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Now everybody who wants this type of surgery, can commit a crime, go to prison and get free treatment.
    Or an easier way is to move to one of the many countries that do it for free and live there for a few years until you are eligible for the free surgery.

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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    She isnt pretending to be anything she isnt. However I agree with the overall point in your post. Even though I believe that SRS is medically necessary to treat GID I dont believe that it should be done on the taxpayers dime.
    HE is pretending to be something he isn't.If he was born a she then he wouldn't need drugs and surgery to half ass make himself look like a woman.
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    Re: Massachusetts judge approves taxpayer-funded sex change for inmate

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    HE is pretending to be something he isn't.If he was born a she then he wouldn't need drugs and surgery to half ass make himself look like a woman.
    Im not claiming that she was born a she. Im saying her gender identity is female and by getting hormones and surgery she isnt pretending to be something she is not. In fact she is finally NOT pretending to be something she isnt. Gender identity has nothing to do with whats between your legs.

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