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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Really? Your issue here is not the 12 million citizens who's privacy has been invaded but instead the privacy of an agent harboring said information? Now, I don't know how much truth there is to this (though evidence points in one direction) but how can you be ok with this much of an invasion of privacy? Is it another case of "If you're not doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?"
    It's a standard line being given by all sorts of people during these hacking attacks over the past few years. An anonymous group hacks Sony, takes information and posts it: "how could Sony let this happen?" A hacker group hacks Blizzard, repeat: "How could Blizzard let this happen?" So on and so forth.

    Tigger may or may not support a supposed government program of this sort, but I wouldn't be so surprised at this comment, as it has been repeated over and over again with other hacking attacks.
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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Really? Your issue here is not the 12 million citizens who's privacy has been invaded but instead the privacy of an agent harboring said information? Now, I don't know how much truth there is to this (though evidence points in one direction) but how can you be ok with this much of an invasion of privacy? Is it another case of "If you're not doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?"
    Exactly. I'm an Authoritarian and always have been. Freedom and Liberty are PRIVILEGES, earned by proper thought, word, and deed so far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Freedom and Liberty are PRIVILEGES, earned by proper thought, word, and deed so far as I'm concerned.
    Do you believe the government has any obligation to the citizenry?
    So follow me into the desert
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    Where the moon is glued to a picture of heaven
    And all the little pigs have God

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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Exactly. I'm an Authoritarian and always have been. Freedom and Liberty are PRIVILEGES, earned by proper thought, word, and deed so far as I'm concerned.
    Well then, you'd love to live in Orwell's 1984 wouldn't you?
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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Do you believe the government has any obligation to the citizenry?
    Yes, I do. I believe the Government has the obligation to provide a secure nation and proper society in which the citizenry may utilize their skills, talents, and abilities to either succeed or fail based upon their their own merits. This means ensuring the security of the national borders and the existance of law and order inside society. It also means working to ensure that the basic tenants of proper society are not only encouraged, but enforced by whatever means may be necessary. The Government also has the responsibility to ensure that the electorate is properly informed and educated about who and what they are voting on before they are allowed to have a say in the voting process. Beyond that, not a whole lot else.

    I also believe that the Citizens have Responsibilities and Duties in a proper society/government as well.

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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Well then, you'd love to live in Orwell's 1984 wouldn't you?
    It wouldn't really bother me all that much, Invisible.

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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It wouldn't really bother me all that much, Invisible.
    Wow! That's sad to hear.
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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Wow! That's sad to hear.
    Why? I understand that you and many others don't like that idea, but for some of us we realize that the average American no longer has any capability to tell Right from Wrong, to do what Should be done rather than what they Want to do, or to actually live a Proper life. Society has abdicated the responsibility to maintain any form of Law, Order, or Common Decency and it's quite obvious the religious organizations are not willing or capable of doing it either; so who else other than the Government is left to actually maintain Order in society?

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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    It wouldn't really bother me all that much, Invisible.
    Because you assume you would never be on the receiving end of Big Brother's truncheon.

    In which case, you missed the whole point of the book.

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    Re: FBI Agent With 12 Million Apple Device IDs? WTF!

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    Because you assume you would never be on the receiving end of Big Brother's truncheon. In which case, you missed the whole point of the book.
    I understand the point of the book quite well. What the book doesn't make concessions for is the ability for any animal that doesn't like the farm to go and move to another farm, which is exactly what one could do in the case of an Authoritarian Government takeover here in the USA. Those who didn't like it could feel free to leave the country. They wouldn't be allowed to take much with them, but they could go freely.

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