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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    More or less correct, but not as record label, instead as storefront which was to then propel the iPod forward. This is why Apple Records started up the suit, and Apple had to settle with them, because this marked an actual entrance into the music market, more or less violating the agreement reached in the 1980s.

    Nevertheless, the intellectual property standards, minus the DRM scheme involved at the time (FairPlay), revolve around the RIAA's concept for intellectual property protections and use.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

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    I agree ................
    We did. I was just picking on some of the details :P
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Anything to trash Apple, worthy or not. Again, any contention with these matters belongs to the RIAA and related outfits that place these restrictions of legality upon its users.
    That is not entirely correct. The RIAA may be the driver of the policy, but nobody is forcing Amazon or Apple to deceive their customers. They have made a deliberate choice to fool people in thinking they are buying music when they are not and they should be held accountable for it. Furthermore, since apple has the direct relationship with customer that makes them the entity to file legal action against.

    Pete may have a somewhat irrational hatred of Apple, but in this case he isn't wrong, especially since this sort of behavior applies to not just Apple but nearly all popular digital music services.

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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    That is not entirely correct. The RIAA may be the driver of the policy, but nobody is forcing Amazon or Apple to deceive their customers. They have made a deliberate choice to fool people in thinking they are buying music when they are not and they should be held accountable for it. Furthermore, since apple has the direct relationship with customer that makes them the entity to file legal action against.

    Pete may have a somewhat irrational hatred of Apple, but in this case he isn't wrong, especially since this sort of behavior applies to not just Apple but nearly all popular digital music services.
    Please, this has been the policy of the Recording Industry since the physical medium. The products themselves, if I recall correctly, still state that you are essentially only purchasing a limit license that permits playback and lending. Does Target or Walmart tell their customers this when they become a storefront? With the digital medium, they argued further restrictions upon the idea of what it is exactly you "own."
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How would Apple know I broke the term of the license agreement? I could have got the songs from other sources.
    I just stated you broke the terms of the license. Now everyone with a bit of know how does it, but that does not change the fact that you technically cant convert the songs to MP3 and it is borderline if you can copy it to a non-Apple device.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Leave it to PeteEU to raise a stink over not only a non-issue but a false story.
    It is not a false story and the issue is hardly a non-issue.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Bruce Willis to fight Apple over music rights after his death | The Sun |Showbiz



    When it rain's it pours for Apple.. more bad PR and this one will hit everyone on the pocketbook when they realise they actually dont own their music they "bought" through iTunes.... they are in fact only renting it. Might actually be a bigger problem in Europe since here we have truth in advertising laws... which means when Apple says you can buy XXXXX on iTunes, then they are lying.

    I'm glad someone is finally taking on Apple over this issue. If you buy a CD you own the CD. It should be no different for ITunes.

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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    The legal system is WAY behind our technology. Our laws are simply not equipped to deal with this sort of discussion. I agree that people SHOULD be allowed to "own" the songs that they buy on iTunes (as much as you actually "own" any piece of intellectual property). Maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like it should be very easy technologically for Apple and other such entities to allow people to transfer their collection to another person, such that the original person will no longer own it. The real barriers are the laws in place: if I transfer my music collection to someone else, that's arguably illegal file-sharing under current law.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Please, this has been the policy of the Recording Industry since the physical medium. The products themselves, if I recall correctly, still state that you are essentially only purchasing a limit license that permits playback and lending. Does Target or Walmart tell their customers this when they become a storefront? With the digital medium, they argued further restrictions upon the idea of what it is exactly you "own."
    The fact that pulling bait and switch scams on consumers has a long and storied history does not make it any less wrong. Digital products also have much worse restrictions, as at least physical mediums can at least be transferred between owners. Apple and Co abuse consumer rights beyond the requirements demanded of them by the RIAA.

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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The fact that pulling bait and switch scams on consumers has a long and storied history does not make it any less wrong. Digital products also have much worse restrictions, as at least physical mediums can at least be transferred between owners. Apple and Co abuse consumer rights beyond the requirements demanded of them by the RIAA.
    RIAA claims you do not own your iTunes music purchases | ExtremeTech
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