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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And you would be breaking the terms of the license.
    How would Apple know I broke the term of the license agreement? I could have got the songs from other sources.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    According to his wife Willis is not suing iTunes. However, this bring an important issue to light regarding music, ownership rights and iTunes.



    Says Who? Emma Heming-Willis Denies Bruce Is Suing Apple Over Right To Bequeath His iTunes - Forbes

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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Leave it to PeteEU to raise a stink over not only a non-issue but a false story.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How would Apple know I broke the term of the license agreement? I could have got the songs from other sources.
    Ecofarm would rat your ass out.

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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You dont get it.. the music you buy on iTunes is not yours. You dont own it.. you just borrow it from Apple. Once you die or give it to another (which you would be able too if you owned it), then Apple can and does seize the music... since you do not own it, and they do. Point is, you are in reality being scammed by Apple. Just think.. you buy a house, pay off the loan, and yet when you die, your house does not go to your kids, but to the building company that built the house, because you only were "borrowing" it.
    This is precisely why I hate Apple soooooo freegin' much. They make innovative hardware, then they know damn well that their services and software are so ****ty and can't compete that they use the court system to sue away competition as they are doing to Samsung. It's exactly why Google bought Motorola. Not to own motorola, but to own motorola's patent rights so that apple can't sue them into oblivion. **** that company and their entire business model.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Leave it to PeteEU to raise a stink over not only a non-issue but a false story.
    Anything to trash Apple, worthy or not. Again, any contention with these matters belongs to the RIAA and related outfits that place these restrictions of legality upon its users.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    ^^^^
    I agree Fiddy

    This is from a 2003 interview with Steve Jobs where he admits that Apple makes no money from the music sold:

    At an Apple financial analyst conference on Wednesday CEO Steve Jobs admitted that Apple makes no revenue from the online download service, the iTunes Music Store, that he launched in April. As iTMS is the leading download service, with 80 per cent market share (or so Jobs claimed), where's your 99 cents per song going?

    "Most of the money goes to the music companies," admitted Jobs.

    "We would like to break even/make a little bit of money but it's not a money maker," he said, candidly.

    So now we have it on record: the music store is a loss leader. Jobs said Apple would pay its dues to the RIAA, then seek to make money where it could, from its line of hardware accessories...
    Your 99c belong to the RIAA Steve Jobs The Register

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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    They had started to make cashflow from the Store years ago now, actually. It was indeed a drive to sell the hardware components, but after a while, the Storefront itself was note worthy.
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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    They had started to make cashflow from the Store years ago now, actually.
    Notwithstanding, their basic premise was not to be in the music industry, but, to sell there own product using the music industry as a vehicle.

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    Re: Bruce Willis to fight Apple over rights to music collection after his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Notwithstanding, their basic premise was not to be in the music industry, but, to sell there own product using the music industry as a vehicle.
    More or less correct, but not as record label, instead as storefront which was to then propel the iPod forward. This is why Apple Records started up the suit, and Apple had to settle with them, because this marked an actual entrance into the music market, more or less violating the agreement reached in the 1980s.

    Nevertheless, the intellectual property standards, minus the DRM scheme involved at the time (FairPlay), revolve around the RIAA's concept for intellectual property protections and use.
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