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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    As I said, nothing succeeds with Arizonans more than beating up on the hispanics.
    or anyone who is in the US illegally.
    So why do you pander to illegal aliens?

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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Now you see? That's incorrect. I never liked "You're either with us or against us" the first time I heard it. The world doesn't work that way.

    Many, many Arizonans, including brown Arizonans, are not pro-illegal. They, like me, support a more rational system than the Arizona Teapartisan position of "lock 'em all up or shoot 'em".

    Nothing is certain, but change. We have no idea when change will happen, but the day will come when Arizona will regret its Teapartisan attitude towards Sonora.
    Not sure of what your response had to due with me relaying Wilcox (a county supervisor) who is pro illegal alien and to say about the DOJ.

    So what is your more rational system? Why do you support people who ignore our laws? Someday Congress may change the immigration laws of the US, till then people wanting to migrate to the US should respect our laws.

    So you object to MCSO going after reported illegal aliens who are using false id's to lie to their employers?

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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Not sure of what your response had to due with me relaying Wilcox (a county supervisor) who is pro illegal alien and to say about the DOJ.

    So what is your more rational system? Why do you support people who ignore our laws? Someday Congress may change the immigration laws of the US, till then people wanting to migrate to the US should respect our laws.

    So you object to MCSO going after reported illegal aliens who are using false id's to lie to their employers?
    Right, Mike, I was responding more in general than to you.

    As far as I am concerned you can't get much more political than Mary Rose, Joe Arpaio, Jan Brewer, Russell Pearce, Thomas and the rest of those bastards. All things being considered, you know who I liked, Jane Hull. She wasn't perfect but she kept the state on an even keel. Napolitano was pretty damned partisan. Hull seemed to be able to keep the lid on most of the extremist nutters.

    We need guest workers under a quest worker program. Both sides would benefit.

    I don't support illegals, but I do believe that we have handled the issue most poorly.

    As to MCSO, I've traveled all over the state for many years and no one has stopped me and asked me for ID except when I have been speeding, which has been more often than I care to admit. But I'm obviously a white guy. I'm a white guy with a Georgia accent. Most people (incorrectly) assume that I support unequal treatment of legal American citizens. I don't support that.

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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I don't support illegals, but I do believe that we have handled the issue most poorly.

    As to MCSO, I've traveled all over the state for many years and no one has stopped me and asked me for ID except when I have been speeding, which has been more often than I care to admit. But I'm obviously a white guy. I'm a white guy with a Georgia accent. Most people (incorrectly) assume that I support unequal treatment of legal American citizens. I don't support that.
    I can agree that over many years the US has handled the illegal alien issue poorly. Border security, improved guest worker program, more stringent laws and fines for employers who hire illegal aliens, needs to happen.

    It is fine line that law enforcement needs to follow when it comes dealing with illegal aliens from Mexico and legal aliens or US citizens with Mexican heritage. What I dislike is some who jump on LE and scream racism, when that many times is not the truth.

    Like you my line of work (now retired) had me traveling all over the SW and the US. I dealt with Native America fire crews, fire crews made up mostly of hispanics, etc. My point, many of MCSO "sweeps" were done on businesses where other issues (ID theft, etc) was reported to be happening. It will be interesting to see how the civil case pans out against MCSO.

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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    All that aside, the guy's a fascist and a racist. That unfortunately isn't against the law. However, since this is Arizona I expect he'll be the next Governor once Crazy Jan decides to hang it up. You can never go far wrong in Arizona by bashing hispanics.
    Oh the poor left ,, confusing "racism:" agianst US Citizens and ENFORCING THE LAWS against FOREIGN NATIONALS.

    GO JOE!

    Sorry Wiggen, US CITIZENSHIP will mean something or all bets are off, and people like you will be the first to go.

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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    I'm actually surprised, given the actions that could be construed as attacks against Arizona by the administration. I would have thought they'd find a way to make it stick.
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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    I think they looked at the date and where they are in election season and decided to pass on the funny business they're playing with Sheriff Joe. He's getting too much support from it and they stand to lose big time by going to the mat with him.

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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    Oh the poor left ,, confusing "racism:" agianst US Citizens and ENFORCING THE LAWS against FOREIGN NATIONALS.

    GO JOE!

    Sorry Wiggen, US CITIZENSHIP will mean something or all bets are off, and people like you will be the first to go.
    Is that some sort of a threat. Frankly, your post was so confusing I couldn't tell.

    And no, Sheriff Joe's crusade is against those with skin colors other than white, regardless of whether they're citizens or not.

    And don't even begin to lecture me on citizenship. My citizenship resulted in me spending three years of my life defending this country. Don't even go there.
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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I think they looked at the date and where they are in election season and decided to pass on the funny business they're playing with Sheriff Joe. He's getting too much support from it and they stand to lose big time by going to the mat with him.
    It's shocking to me that discrimination against Hispanics would be popular with all the good white folks in Arizona. Shocked, I say!
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    Re: Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    It's shocking to me that discrimination against Hispanics would be popular with all the good white folks in Arizona. Shocked, I say!
    More supported claims of racism and bigotry without any actual proof.
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