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Joe Arpaio Investigation Closed; No Federal Charges Will Be Filed Against Him

I'm actually surprised, given the actions that could be construed as attacks against Arizona by the administration. I would have thought they'd find a way to make it stick.
 
I think they looked at the date and where they are in election season and decided to pass on the funny business they're playing with Sheriff Joe. He's getting too much support from it and they stand to lose big time by going to the mat with him.
 
274ina said:
Oh the poor left ,, confusing "racism:" agianst US Citizens and ENFORCING THE LAWS against FOREIGN NATIONALS.

GO JOE!

Sorry Wiggen, US CITIZENSHIP will mean something or all bets are off, and people like you will be the first to go.
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Is that some sort of a threat. Frankly, your post was so confusing I couldn't tell.

And no, Sheriff Joe's crusade is against those with skin colors other than white, regardless of whether they're citizens or not.

And don't even begin to lecture me on citizenship. My citizenship resulted in me spending three years of my life defending this country. Don't even go there.
 
clownboy said:
I think they looked at the date and where they are in election season and decided to pass on the funny business they're playing with Sheriff Joe. He's getting too much support from it and they stand to lose big time by going to the mat with him.
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It's shocking to me that discrimination against Hispanics would be popular with all the good white folks in Arizona. Shocked, I say!:lamo
 
Wiggen said:
It's shocking to me that discrimination against Hispanics would be popular with all the good white folks in Arizona. Shocked, I say!:lamo
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More supported claims of racism and bigotry without any actual proof.
 
Wiggen said:
Is that some sort of a threat. Frankly, your post was so confusing I couldn't tell.

And no, Sheriff Joe's crusade is against those with skin colors other than white, regardless of whether they're citizens or not.

And don't even begin to lecture me on citizenship. My citizenship resulted in me spending three years of my life defending this country. Don't even go there.
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yes it is a threat of jail, or worse. See when a person sees foreign criminals and so called citizens taking his job, healthcare, and homes. He is MIGHTY PISSED off, and
is ready for CIVIL WAR to set things right..........

See YOU are a criminal FELON in violation of Federal law. Section 274 of the INA. (note my handle LOL)

or known as 8 USC 1324
"iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or
reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of
the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be
in violation of law; or"

if you fought for USA, then why do you support foreign criminals taking US Citizen jobs?

Your "racism" BS is just that, with all your "investigations" you have NOTHING after YEARS.

See if you dress like a Mexican, talk like a mexican, listen to foreign music, they call that "Reasonable suspicion" and that
IS ALL (MSCO) they need to stop you. ICE needs NOTHING, no reason at all to stop ANYONE within ~200 mi of the border. And all those items have NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE.
 
radcen said:
Read carefully, without bias...

Not prosecutable =/= didn't happen.

Note that they did NOT say the allegation were unfounded. They did NOT say there was no evidence anything illegal actually happened. They merely said that the case would be unwinnable. Decisions are made everyday regarding the practical feasibility of a given case, and Sheriff Joe's popularity and status only serves to make him even more of a "persecuted martyr" if they were to proceed and lose.

This was a practical decision, nothing more. Certainly not a vindication.
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So you're saying that he's probably is a little bastard, it's just that they couldn't win a case against him.
 
tessaesque said:
I'm actually surprised, given the actions that could be construed as attacks against Arizona by the administration. I would have thought they'd find a way to make it stick.
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Trouble is, most people consider Arpaio some kind of country bumpkin sheriff. They have no idea of this man's background and level of experience. He continues to makes fools out of people that underestimate him.
 
hawke812 said:
He said "beating up on the hispanics", NOT "illegal aliens". I guess they are the same difference to you:lol:
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and you evidently like to read into what others say (LOL)

I said, "or anyone who is in the US illegally. In response to "beating up on the hispanics."
The I asked a question. So why do you pander to illegal aliens?

His posts leads to the conclusion that he supports illegal aliens? MCSO does target illegal aliens as well as other criminals.

So believe what you want. MCSO and Joe at least knows we have an illegal alien problem in Arizona and the US.

Back on topic. Who do you think is outraged by the decision of DOJ to drop the case? Lets see, Mary Rose Wilcox (illegal alien supporter), and some hispanic activists that supports illegal aliens. Wonder why they seem the only ones bothered by the decision?
 
Wiggen said:
All that aside, the guy's a fascist and a racist. That unfortunately isn't against the law. However, since this is Arizona I expect he'll be the next Governor once Crazy Jan decides to hang it up. You can never go far wrong in Arizona by bashing hispanics.
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Have you been to Arizona? Just in case you havent there is a large population of hispanic people there, and more than a few vote for Arpio.:roll: Damn near half the population of the state is hispanic. In some areas its more than half.
 
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I think it's around 30%, and I don't think many would vote for him, even if they could. He's an embarrassment to the people of Arizona.
 
liblady said:
I think it's around 30%, and I don't think many would vote for him, even if they could. He's an embarrassment to the people of Arizona.
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For a man who is such an embarrassment the people of Maricopa county sure do love him to keep electing him to numerous terms. Apparently the only people who consider him an embarrassment are the pro-illegals and the scumbag sympathizers.
 
Race Statistics for Maricopa County

White: 2,786,781

Black: 190,519

Am. Indian/Alaska Native: 78,329

Asian: 132,225

Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander: 7,790

Other: 489,705

Two or More Races: 131,768

Hispanic/Latino: 1,128,741

Source
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Now, take a look at the vote counts from each of his elections

Either hispanic citizens aren't voting at all and all the other folks are showing up at the polls every time 100% or the hispanic citizens of Maricopa County are voting for Arpiao.
 
liblady said:
I think it's around 30%, and I don't think many would vote for him, even if they could. He's an embarrassment to the people of Arizona.
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A third the population is hispanic in AZ. He cant get elected with out them voting for him.
 
liblady said:
I think it's around 30%, and I don't think many would vote for him, even if they could. He's an embarrassment to the people of Arizona.
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No he's not, a lot of hispanics vote for him *BECAUSE* he is harshly anti-illegal-alien. Many people who went through the trouble of becoming a legal citizen tend to resent the idiots who just run across the border to make money and then run back home.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Have you been to Arizona? Just in case you havent there is a large population of hispanic people there, and more than a few vote for Arpio.:roll: Damn near half the population of the state is hispanic. In some areas its more than half.
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Hispanics, historically, have always been generally conservative, overall. This places them in a hard spot when it comes to American politics, because the people they would most naturally like to align themselves with (conservatives Republicans) take great pains to demonize them, while the other side (liberal Democrats) have been working to, in essence, buy them off with faux friendship and government tolerance. And it's slowly working because the younger generations are leaving their historical family conservative ideals behind and going liberal.

Sheriff Joe still appeals to many of them, because Sheriff Joe appeals to the base "tough on crime" mentality that brings many in who don't look any deeper than the surface and don't see what damage the undercurrent of "tough on crime" really does to a society. I find it ironic that some of the most ardent Sheriff Joe supporters here will also disapprove of other injustices by other law enforcement people and agencies across the country which, in effect, the same thing and the same mentality.
 
radcen said:
Hispanics, historically, have always been generally conservative, overall. This places them in a hard spot when it comes to American politics, because the people they would most naturally like to align themselves with (conservatives Republicans) take great pains to demonize them, while the other side (liberal Democrats) have been working to, in essence, buy them off with faux friendship and government tolerance. And it's slowly working because the younger generations are leaving their historical family conservative ideals behind and going liberal.

Sheriff Joe still appeals to many of them, because Sheriff Joe appeals to the base "tough on crime" mentality that brings many in who don't look any deeper than the surface and don't see what damage the undercurrent of "tough on crime" really does to a society. I find it ironic that some of the most ardent Sheriff Joe supporters here will also disapprove of other injustices by other law enforcement people and agencies across the country which, in effect, the same thing and the same mentality.
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I dont paticularly like Joe Arpio and his politics and especially is policies, but the good people of Arizona voted for him. I just pointed out that hispanics had to have voted for him, based on the number of hispanics in the state.
 
clownboy said:
Now, take a look at the vote counts from each of his elections

Either hispanic citizens aren't voting at all and all the other folks are showing up at the polls every time 100% or the hispanic citizens of Maricopa County are voting for Arpiao.
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Pro-illegals tend to claim that all Hispanics support illegal immigration and that anti-illegal immigration laws target Hispanics. So the pro-illegals who are stupid enough to believe those claims are shocked when they find out otherwise.
 
liblady said:
I think it's around 30%, and I don't think many would vote for him, even if they could. He's an embarrassment to the people of Arizona.
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It will be interesting this fall. He is up for reelection.

As far as embarrassment. I can think of State govts (like CA) that is an embarrassment to the US. CA comes up with some pretty off the wall laws.
 
jamesrage said:
Pro-illegals tend to claim that all Hispanics support illegal immigration and that anti-illegal immigration laws target Hispanics. So the pro-illegals who are stupid enough to believe those claims are shocked when they find out otherwise.
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If I understand correctly what you said here, you are correct that most Hispanics... legal immigrants and natural citizens... do NOT support illegal immigration.
 
radcen said:
If I understand correctly what you said here, you are correct that most Hispanics... legal immigrants and natural citizens... do NOT support illegal immigration.
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That depends, the general breakdown around here is that the Reagan Amnesty ones encourage illegals, the folks who went through the process and became citizens without amnesty absolutely detest the illegals. I'm sure as with all things human, there is a spectrum, a range - but that's how it generally breaks down in my experience.
 
mike2810 said:
It will be interesting this fall. He is up for reelection.

As far as embarrassment. I can think of State govts (like CA) that is an embarrassment to the US. CA comes up with some pretty off the wall laws.
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True, there are many states that should hang their collective heads in shame. We probably just don't agree on which ones. Any Sheriff who takes on an investigation of a president is looney, in my book.
 
liblady said:
True, there are many states that should hang their collective heads in shame. We probably just don't agree on which ones. Any Sheriff who takes on an investigation of a president is looney, in my book.
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I will agree that MCSO has done some strange things. I do agree with Sheriff Joe on his stance on "illegal" immigration.
While MCSO has busted illegal aliens for id theft, business owners for hiring illegal aliens, which some do not like. MCSO has also done good in busting coyotes (human smuggling) and rescued illegal aliens in the desert from dying.

With the Feds and Congress would get their act togeather and fix the illegal immigration problem.
 
mike2810 said:
I will agree that MCSO has done some strange things. I do agree with Sheriff Joe on his stance on "illegal" immigration.
While MCSO has busted illegal aliens for id theft, business owners for hiring illegal aliens, which some do not like. MCSO has also done good in busting coyotes (human smuggling) and rescued illegal aliens in the desert from dying.

With the Feds and Congress would get their act togeather and fix the illegal immigration problem.
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Those are good things.....the funny thing is, many Arizonans, and impersonally know one of them, bitches about illegals but hires them because they are cheap. A friend of mine is staunchly republican (I don't equate true conservatism with republicans) but uses an entirely illegal company for landscaping. Quite ironic, right? See, republicans want to use illegals, some say dems do too, for voting, ( although I doubt many illegals are keen to vote) but most of us just want a solution to the myriad of problems illegal immigration produces.

1. Amnesty for all illegals who have committed no other crimes.
2. Huge fines for those hiring illegals (enforced!).
3. Quick deportation for those illegals who are arrested, and deportation of all illegals currently in prison or jail.
4. No more anchor baby clause.


I could mention more, but you get my drift. We don't need vigilantes, we just need to enforce the laws we have now. And perhaps work with Mexico to try to mitigate the desperation these people must feel when they are driven to walk across a desert or be smuggled in a van with twenty others.
 
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