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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Pretty remarkable that there are only 100 children in Florida. I remembered a lot of old people in Florida, and their parents, from when I lived there, but the demographics have clearly shifted.
    Apparently my brain was only half functioning when I wrote that.

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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    They originally register themselves. There is not a system in place to remove them after they die. They stay on the rolls because overzealous purging can result in legitimate voters being removed. Would you raise hell if you went to vote and were denied because you were mistakenly removed because your name might be similar or like someone who died? It's not some nefarious plot to subvert the system.

    The logistics just aren't there to game the system with in person vote fraud.
    Again I'm not sure about other states but in my state you have to register every election season. IE its not renewed each and every season. So sorry but your explanation doesn't hold any water.
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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    No, but a sensationalized 'news investigator' had time to show himself knocking on a bunch of doors. If he really had some thing he could have shown just as many blurbs of 'I voted' - if he had had them.

    All he had was jury summons saying they were ineligible to serve because they were non-citizens and their name also appeared on the voter rolls - NOT THAT ALL 100 VOTED.
    Again...why register the names if they weren't going to vote? And you can't exactly use the "purge" explanation here since they never should have been registered in the first place. So whether those particular people voted or not is really irrelevent. The fact that thier names were registered to vote shows that fraud is going on.


    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    I've read on these very pages as well as news sources that this would keep illegals from diluting my vote. They didn't give a percentage, so one would naturally default to 100%, though I didn't claim anyone said it would be 100% effective. In fact many have pointed out a flaw in requiring photo ID, is that it can be easily forged, if one is determined to cast an illegal ballot.
    Easily yes...expensive though.

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    I merely pointed out that many of the voter registration were done during the process of getting an acceptable photo ID, as per the article.
    What state allows you to register at the same time that you get an ID card? Much less done automatically without the knowledge of the people getting the ID. After all..if they are not truely wanting to vote then surely they know nothing about getting registered when they get their ID?



    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    LOL...What was that you were just saying about strawmen? No one is saying it doesn't happen at all, just that that it is so small that it's statistically nil.
    And his statement implied that it just doesn't happen at all.
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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I have absolutely no problem presenting my D/L to cash checks, open bank accounts, fly on a commercial airliner, enter my municipal swimming pool or golf course, withdraw money or any of the myriad ways my D/L allows me access.

    So it stands to reason I would have no problem at all presenting a photo i.d. to vote. If people don't have D/L's, they should be provided state i.d.'s for free. I did not have to present my birth certificate to get my D/L. Nor to register to vote. My mom didn't have to present her birth certificate to get a state i.d.

    It's not difficult. It's not unreasonable. And, frankly? If one isn't smart enough to get a photo i.d.? They probably shouldn't be voting anyway. And, guess what? They probably don't.
    I have seen on this board and others that when the ID is offered for free then the argument shanges to the fact that the person has to wait in line.

    I don't think it is too much to ask for somebody to go to the government office, no matter how far it is away from their house, and get the ID.

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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    This has always been a solution in search of a problem. Voila! We now have identified the problem - it's those sneaky damned Canadians playing games with our elections!
    Do you think nothing should be done until after damage is done?

    Can't an intelligent person see the potential for damage and try to prevent it?

    I would like to close the barn door before the cow gets out rather than after.

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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Not even a student ID??
    If you are a college student and don't have a student id, you had better stay in your room.

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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I dunno. But what I do know is that approx. 15% of Americans do not possess photo ID. That is fact, Jack.
    Voter ID | Brennan Center for Justice
    How many of that 15% are eligible to vote?

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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Do you think nothing should be done until after damage is done?

    Can't an intelligent person see the potential for damage and try to prevent it?

    I would like to close the barn door before the cow gets out rather than after.
    A solution in search of a problem, but a great way to disenfranchise the poor and minorities. Which, of course, is the point. Republicans don't even pretend otherwise.
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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If you are a college student and don't have a student id, you had better stay in your room.
    I'm guessing you'd be all in favor of a national identity card, so that bureaucrats could ask at any time to 'see your papers'. Kind of like one of those old movies about the Nazis, isn't it?
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    Re: Canadian man living in Broward pleads guilty to voting illegally in ‘08 president

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Again I'm not sure about other states but in my state you have to register every election season. IE its not renewed each and every season. So sorry but your explanation doesn't hold any water.
    Your state must be an anomaly. I'm not looking up every state, but a sampling...

    Massachusetts

    4. Do I have to re-register every year?

    No.

    .

    Colorado

    4. "DO I HAVE TO REGISTER EVERY YEAR?"

    No

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    Texas

    Don’t I just stay registered?

    New certificates are mailed out every two years to the most recent address you gave to the voter registrar.

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    Alabama

    Do I have to register for each election?

    No.

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    New York

    Once registered to vote, do I have to re-register every year?
    No.



    *Note - In each case there is more than a 'no', but basically, if your status doesn't change you don't have to re-register.
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