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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    By people familiar with the subject matter, credentials you haven't demonstrated.

    Yes I can, and did. Why would you insist on creating a term for a criminal charge specific to motives and actions not displayed in this shooting if there were no political motives behind it?
    You didn't explain how I am making it political. You tossed out the ridiculous accusation because you can't actually respond to the definition and criteria of social terrorism I've spelled out.

    In fact, not a single person who has been constantly whining about has actually addressed it.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are failing to comprehend why the shootings in the story is not any form of terrorism. What you are doing amounts to calling a chocolate cake a T-Bone steak.Now if the chocolate cake looked like a T-bone steak,was the shape of a t-bone steak or was made out of a t-bone steak then you might be justified in calling a chocolate t-bone steak cake.The crime in the OP story has nothing to do with terrorism.So you are not justified in calling the crime in the OP story a form of terrorism.
    You are failing to comprhend why it is terrorism because you are allergic to new concepts.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    You are failing to comprhend why it is terrorism because you are allergic to new concepts.
    It doesn't have anything to do with being allergic to new concepts. The fact is the shootings in the OP story don't have squat to do with terrorism. If the shooter had some note saying he was coerce or intimidate the government or segment of the population to do something with his two murders and a suicide then it would be terrorism.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It doesn't have anything to do with being allergic to new concepts. The fact is the shootings in the OP story don't have squat to do with terrorism. If the shooter had some note saying he was coerce or intimidate the government or segment of the population to do something with his two murders and a suicide then it would be terrorism.
    There was a time when the terms bio and eco terrorism did not exist but were created to aptly describe a certain kind of terrorism. Social terrorism is doing the same thing.

    Test my definition if you are so sure it is meaningless.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Look, Furry. Why don't you just take it as read that no one buys your new term, and just cut to the chase -- where are you going with this? What's your conclusion? Bring it home.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Look, Furry. Why don't you just take it as read that no one buys your new term, and just cut to the chase -- where are you going with this? What's your conclusion? Bring it home.
    I really don't care if a couple of people in a thread who whine and refuse to address the actual contents say they don't like it. I really don't.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    I really don't care if a couple of people in a thread who whine and refuse to address the actual contents say they don't like it. I really don't.
    And you dodge the actual question. Why is that?
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    It is called social terrorism because that is the most accurate description and not all terrorism is motivated by politics. Lynching was a form of social terrorism that had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the social ill of racism. Yes. White people were lynched. White people who helped black people.

    It also has nothing to do with trying to demonize gun owners of anyone else. Please accept my apologies for having the rude audacity to notice a trend of social terrorism and discuss it to help understand what is happening.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    There was a time when the terms bio and eco terrorism did not exist but were created to aptly describe a certain kind of terrorism.
    Bio and eco terrorism are terrorism because of “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”. Bio and eco just specify what type of terrorism it is.



    Social terrorism is doing the same thing.
    Not the way you are using it. You are ignoring the "intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” part. You have to have that in order for a violent crime to be an act of terrorism.


    Test my definition if you are so sure it is meaningless.

    Social-

    denoting or relating to human society or any of its subdivisionsip, communal activity, etc



    Terrorism-

    “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

    Sorry but the crime in the OP has nothing to do with terrorism.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Bio and eco terrorism are terrorism because of “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”. Bio and eco just specify what type of terrorism it is.




    Not the way you are using it. You are ignoring the "intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” part. You have to have that in order for a violent crime to be an act of terrorism.





    Social-

    denoting or relating to human society or any of its subdivisionsip, communal activity, etc



    Terrorism-

    “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

    Sorry but the crime in the OP has nothing to do with terrorism.
    Your posts are like a 75 foot thick brick wall. Do you see the part you underlined? I've addressed that several times in this thread and you still ignore it. Have fun.
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