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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

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    You don't like my term? Fine. Challenge me on it for accuracy and consistency. Give some examples of shootings and ask which ones fit ST and which ones don't and why
    You have my criteria list.
    I couldn't care less if they fit your made-up term or not. Why should anyone?
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

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    I couldn't care less if they fit your made-up term or not. Why should anyone?
    You've only been posting about it for a few pages. I'm not really surprised you ran from the simple challenge.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    Do you understand I am working with a new term that most accurately describes events and that the CDC does not have every freaking term in the world in cookie cutter legal definitions so that anal retentive blocks don't throw fits every time they see a term that isn't in the CDC library?

    If you don't like the term social terrorism then don't use it. I don't care.
    The term social terrorism does not accurately describe the events in the OP. The guy in the OP article was not trying to coerce some sort of social or political change with his double murder and suicide. This is nothing more than a angry worker pissed off at his employer or place of employment. What you are doing amounts to calling a chocolate cake a ham and cheese croissant sandwich, a rape a arson,or a car jacking a bank robbery.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    You've only been posting about it for a few pages. I'm not really surprised you ran from the simple challenge.
    If you think I've been posting about your made-up term, other than to point out that it's made-up, then I don't know what to tell you.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The term social terrorism does not accurately describe the events in the OP. The guy in the OP article was not trying to coerce some sort of social or political change with his double murder and suicide. This is nothing more than a angry worker pissed off at his employer or place of employment. What you are doing amounts to calling a chocolate cake a ham and cheese croissant sandwich, a rape a arson,or a car jacking a bank robbery.
    You really truly seriously have not paid attention to my position.

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    You really truly seriously have not paid attention to my position.

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    Yes I have paid attention to your position. You are trying to inaccurately describe a double murder and suicide that was motivate by revenge as a act of terrorism. You hope that by slapping the word social in front of the word terrorism that the meaning of the word terrorism can be ignored. Again what you are doing amounts to call a Arson a rape, a McDonald's quarter pound Cheeseburger a Chocolate shake, or a armed bank robbery a home burglary.



    Bengal tiger is a type of tiger.The definition of tiger is not changed when you add Bengal in front of it. A tiger is still a tiger regardless if it is a Bengal, Indochinese, Malayan, Sumatran, Siberian or South China tiger. The reason those words are in front of the word tiger is because its trying to specify a type of tiger. You are not trying specify a type of terrorism. You are trying to create a term that has nothing to do with what the word actually means.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes I have paid attention to your position. You are trying to inaccurately describe a double murder and suicide that was motivate by revenge as a act of terrorism. You hope that by slapping the word social in front of the word terrorism that the meaning of the word terrorism can be ignored. Again what you are doing amounts to call a Arson a rape, a McDonald's quarter pound Cheeseburger a Chocolate shake, or a armed bank robbery a home burglary.



    Bengal tiger is a type of tiger.The definition of tiger is not changed when you add Bengal in front of it. A tiger is still a tiger regardless if it is a Bengal, Indochinese, Malayan, Sumatran, Siberian or South China tiger. The reason those words are in front of the word tiger is because its trying to specify a type of tiger. You are not trying specify a type of terrorism. You are trying to create a term that has nothing to do with what the word actually means.
    You haven't paid attention because the whole point of social terrorism is they have no political or idealogical agenda.

    How do you know this was a revenge shooting?
    My main function as a Christian is to be the biggest possible jerk as a demonstration of the awe found in God's Grace and Forgiveness. (That love part comes in to play at some point)

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    You haven't paid attention because the whole point of social terrorism is they have no political or idealogical agenda.
    If for some strange reason someone wanted to a bunch of people to wear orange on Fridays and that person decided to start bombing and killing people in order to scare people into wearing orange on Fridays, it would be terrorism. It wouldn't be political and it wouldn't ideological. But it is still terrorism because he or she is trying to use that violence to basically scare people into doing what he or she wants.


    How do you know this was a revenge shooting?
    If its not revenge then why do you think he murdered two innocent people two people before committing suicide at his place of employment? Was he trying to use that violence scare everybody who shops at the state into doing something?
    Last edited by jamesrage; 09-02-12 at 11:35 PM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If for some strange reason someone decided to start bombing stores and killing people because he or she wants everybody or even just a segment of the population to wear the color orange on Friday it would be terrorism. It wouldn't be political and it wouldn't ideological but it is still terrorism because he or she is trying to use that violence to basically scare people into wearing the color orange on Fridays.




    If its not revenge then why do you think he murdered two innocent people two people before committing suicide? Was he trying to use that violence scare everybody who shops at the state into doing something?
    Doing it to coerce people into wearing orange shirts is doing it for an ideology.

    So you have no actual proof it was revenge and just wanted to say that.

    I'm going to have to start a new thread that thoroughly characterizes my position.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    Doing it to coerce people into wearing orange shirts is doing it for an ideology.
    Coercing people into wearing something is not ideological. He or she could simply just love the color orange



    So you have no actual proof it was revenge and just wanted to say that.
    Then please humor me and tell me what the motivation is for the work place homicides in the OP.

    I'm going to have to start a new thread that thoroughly characterizes my position.
    Posters will tell you that your position is wrong and will show the same or similar definitions of terrorism that you have been shown multiple times through out this thread.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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