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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Nothing here speaks to anything you CAN address, which is a point I was trying to make some pages back.





    OK, that's just plain nuts. There is not one shred of evidence to suggest this, not an iota, and and it runs counter to the vast majority of US history, where individualism was given much more respect than it is now.




    You've already drawn a ridiculous conclusion on that score.




    Mostly took a powder from 1999 to 2007:

    A history of mass shootings in the US since Columbine - Telegraph

    And, of course, there's no motivational pattern between them.

    I'm sure you'll find one of you really, really want there to be one, though.

    Of course, WaPo looks at a much longer period and concludes there's no rhyme or reason to it.

    Colorado shootings add chapter to long, unpredictable story of U.S. mass murder - The Washington Post
    For the 45th time, I'm not talking about mass murder.
    You can say my hypothesis is nuts but when you do nothing to show why it only shows you cannot present a counter argument or theory.

    I'm not saying I have the answers. I'm saying we should start looking for them.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    For the 45th time, I'm not talking about mass murder.
    Did you even read the stories at the links? I doubt very much you did. Those are about mass shootings. If you're not talking about that, then you're making absolutely no sense in the slightest.

    Of course, that's the same thing anyway, but what exactly do you THINK you're talking about that's different from what I posted? This seems like a tremendous dodge, for reasons which are unclear.


    You can say my hypothesis is nuts but when you do nothing to show why
    I already told you that it runs counter to the American experience, where this didn't happen when "individualism" was revered far more than it is now. If your "theory" were correct, that wouldn't have been the case. That's empirical.


    it only shows you cannot present a counter argument or theory.
    I wouldn't have to. You have to show yours is correct, and you present absolutely no support for it whatsoever.


    I'm not saying I have the answers. I'm saying we should start looking for them.
    Oh, I think you think you do. So don't be coy -- what are they?
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    Lol.....the shooter in the OP is not white....once again someone criticizing my position without knowing basic facts. Forgive me if I dont take it seriously.
    The basic facts are that violent acts occur daily. Its nothing new. OK...the OP shooter was not 'white'...its still only rlevant because it is a 'story' and not every day victims occurring in major cities across the country...

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    Gang shootings are not random acts of violence. It is organized crime.
    Some arent...many are. And their intent is no less planned than any terrorists actions. So...why arent you interested in the daily incidents of gang violence? Why do you so easily discount them and only focus on the 'newsworthy' events?

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Some arent...many are. And their intent is no less planned than any terrorists actions. So...why arent you interested in the daily incidents of gang violence? Why do you so easily discount them and only focus on the 'newsworthy' events?
    I really don't have the patience to waste time on people ascribing some ulterior motive so your snipe hunt may continue but it will be lonely.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Did you even read the stories at the links? I doubt very much you did. Those are about mass shootings. If you're not talking about that, then you're making absolutely no sense in the slightest.

    Of course, that's the same thing anyway, but what exactly do you THINK you're talking about that's different from what I posted? This seems like a tremendous dodge, for reasons which are unclear.




    I already told you that it runs counter to the American experience, where this didn't happen when "individualism" was revered far more than it is now. If your "theory" were correct, that wouldn't have been the case. That's empirical.




    I wouldn't have to. You have to show yours is correct, and you present absolutely no support for it whatsoever.




    Oh, I think you think you do. So don't be coy -- what are they?
    I had read through many of them and if you actually looked at the criteria I laid out you wouldn't have wasted your time linking mass murders that have nothing to do with the topic.
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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    I really don't have the patience to waste time on people ascribing some ulterior motive so your snipe hunt may continue but it will be lonely.
    I alwasy laugh at the people that take the time to post how they dont have time to post.

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I alwasy laugh at the people that take the time to post how they dont have time to post.
    I didn't say I don't have tine to post. You appear to struggle with the actual contents of posts.
    My main function as a Christian is to be the biggest possible jerk as a demonstration of the awe found in God's Grace and Forgiveness. (That love part comes in to play at some point)

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    I didn't know we were only allowed to post legal definitions.
    You can make **** up all you want, it's not me looking ignorant on the subject.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Police: Gunman kills two at N.J. supermarket

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You can make **** up all you want, it's not me looking ignorant on the subject.
    The fact you didn't know the basic facts of the OP story tends to disagree.
    My main function as a Christian is to be the biggest possible jerk as a demonstration of the awe found in God's Grace and Forgiveness. (That love part comes in to play at some point)

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