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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Teachers unions existed in periods in which our education system was fairing quite well by most standards. To assign blame to a singular source is a fool's errand.
    When was that?

    Said businesses prove to be unsustainable without the consumer activity that stems from the poor and middle classes, food stamps, since you brought them up, provide many local grocers, shipping companies, and farmers with large amounts of demand for their goods that would otherwise be absent due to personal debt and other immediate concerns.
    Got it, so the more people on food stamps the stronger the economy, and that's the resource to creating an economy from the bottom up.
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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    What on earth are you rambling about? Modern day USA is as friendly to business as just about any other country in the developed world, and boasts the largest capable consumer base in the free world. Those who are moving overseas are doing so largely in order to expand their consumer base, reduce labor costs and maximize profit margins. To operate on the notion that the USA overnight has become simply inhospitable to business is simply absurd. A quick read that might alleviate a flurry of misconceptions.

    Ease of doing business index (1=most business-friendly regulations) | Data | Table
    Nice link. For the factors weighed, they made their assessment. But I note that the only factor shared between what I said and what you linked is Taxes, which is one area even they put the US very low in. It does not address labor costs, ease of doing business with the labor market, or all aspects of government regulation in the business environment. If you deal with chemicals or emissions, the EPA is going to have a much larger impact on your business than if you are only a retailer. But then again, if you are a retailer, you cannot outsource distribution or outlets.

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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

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    i respectfully disagree.
    You respectfully disagree that teachers unions have not destroyed our education system, then how is it better for a child's education from a bad teacher that you can't fire? How is it better for the eduction for a child, when teachers unions are doing everything they can to not have voucher system. Unless parents can afford a private school they are forced to be taught by incompetent teachers, that can't be fired or a good teacher given performance pay, how is this good for the education of the child. Is not school choice better for the education of the children so that parents can choose what school they want their child to go too.

    Yes teachers Unions have destroyed our education system, we continue to pour more and more money into a failed system with no results. All the added money that goes into our schools go to over paid pension plans, not to educate the children.
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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

    Duhhh.

    If I pay you idiot peons a higher wage, then there's less money for me.

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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    You respectfully disagree that teachers unions have not destroyed our education system, then how is it better for a child's education from a bad teacher that you can't fire? How is it better for the eduction for a child, when teachers unions are doing everything they can to not have voucher system. Unless parents can afford a private school they are forced to be taught by incompetent teachers, that can't be fired or a good teacher given performance pay, how is this good for the education of the child. Is not school choice better for the education of the children so that parents can choose what school they want their child to go too.

    Yes teachers Unions have destroyed our education system, we continue to pour more and more money into a failed system with no results. All the added money that goes into our schools go to over paid pension plans, not to educate the children.
    i'm aware of those talking points.

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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    unions aren't needed where working conditions are good, job security is adequate, pay is fair, and there's opportunity for workers to be rewarded for hard work and loyalty. i would argue that's not the norm these days. it is, however, present in some areas of manufacturing, and i applaud that.






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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

    You aren't ever going to see a more labor friendly administration than this one and still unions continue to fizzle
    nyt 2011: union membership at 70 year low

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/bu...4X4nZKYRhNMysg

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    "worked" in quotes, alright

    google: roosevelt recession, 1937

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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

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    my suggestion would be a massive reallocation of revenue to expand our highways and infrastructure, as well as a national energy initiative
    tired old liberalism

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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

    so the more people on food stamps the stronger the economy
    that's the program

    Obama Ag Secretary Vilsack: Food Stamps Are A Stimulus | RealClearPolitics

    be very careful how you use the words "food stamps," you might be a racist

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    Re: NYT: Majority Of New Jobs Pay Low Wages, Study Says

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    tired old liberalism

    no one has even proposed the level of rebuilding that we really need. building a couple extra roads isn't enough.

    it's pretty simple, really. we can pay people who want to work an entitlement, or we can hire them to build the infrastructure we've been neglecting in favor of building that same infrastructure in other countries. i prefer a rebuild America plan.

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