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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Which is why we have gun laws. Some people just can't be trusted.
    what guns laws would I have factual broken? thats nothing more than your opinion LOL
    also factually prove that I cant be trusted LMAO

    I cant wait to hear LOL this

    also dont dodge the question qhat argument were you talking about
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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Fair enough. I, personally, would still probably shoot him even if it's just to injure him. If someone attempted to kidnap a family member (or myself) I would try to make sure they couldn't get away and/or commit the crime again.
    My witness statement would say that you had a clear shot, took it, and the perp dropped your kid after being shot.

    Yup that's "true and correct to the best of my recollection". That's how I saw it

    Did he drop the kid right next to the car? If so, then "I was in fear for the child's life" about to be run over by the car.

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    A shotgun is arguably the best home defense weapon their is and this lady did a great job with a great tool. Nice work mom.
    Everytime someone gets a handgun for self defense in the home I'm always like "why not get a big ass double barrel shotgun"....the intimidation factor is 30 times higher and it's not as tough as aiming with a handgun.
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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    what guns laws would I have factual broken? thats nothing more than your opinion LOL
    also factually prove that I cant be trusted LMAO

    I cant wait to hear LOL this

    also dont dodge the question qhat argument were you talking about
    A) Never said would have broken gun laws. FACT

    B) Never said you couldn't be trusted. FACT

    C) I just assumed you were against strict gun laws, based on your statement. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Everytime someone gets a handgun for self defense in the home I'm always like "why not get a big ass double barrel shotgun"....the intimidation factor is 30 times higher and it's not as tough as aiming with a handgun.
    Long barrels make it difficult to use in a building, is the first reason that comes to mind. Military shot guns are shorter for that reason.

    Double barrel = only 2 shots, is another reason. I'd rather have a nice pump-action or auto with more rounds.

    And I guess my last reason is I wouldn't have any gun to intimidate. I would have a gun to kill.

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    A) Never said would have broken gun laws. FACT

    B) Never said you couldn't be trusted. FACT

    C) I just assumed you were against strict gun laws, based on your statement. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.


    Nice try but you dont get to back pedal

    I said Id shoot they guy, your reply was "Which is why we have gun laws. Some people just can't be trusted."

    this CLEARLY implies you think id be breaking the law by shooting him and I cant be trusted. In both cases you ASSumed WRONG lol which is a FACT.

    also I am against "strict" gun laws which isnt hurt by anything I said here nor does my statement hurt any argument I made LOL

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Long barrels make it difficult to use in a building, is the first reason that comes to mind. Military shot guns are shorter for that reason.

    Double barrel = only 2 shots, is another reason. I'd rather have a nice pump-action or auto with more rounds.

    And I guess my last reason is I wouldn't have any gun to intimidate. I would have a gun to kill.
    Sure I agree with the shorter barrel makes it better to use in more confining spaces.

    When you're talking to someone that doesn't spend a lot of time at a range and owns a weapon strictly for protection purposes I'm pretty sure safety is first. They would probably prefer intidimidation than getting into a firefight in their living room with a handgun while their adreneline is going.

    I do agree with you on a shotgun with more than 2 rounds.
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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    You seem to have missed (or ignored) my point so I'll put it more straight forwards;

    I don't necessarily disagree with the right to bare arms but you need to recognise that the freer gun ownership doesn't just make it easier for people like the mother in this case to get a gun but it also makes it easier for people like the man in the case to get one too.

    It's not a simple issue, there are many complications that I think require more consideration than they seem to receive.
    If every household in the US had a gun it would matter less if the criminal element had them too. Even if you have a gun your not going to want to put yourself into a possible confrontation with someone else that has a gun. No way I would ever break into a home if I knew that if someone was inside they likely had a gun (not that I break into homes, was using myself as an example. Yes I have to say this because sure enough someone would comment about me breaking into homes if I didnt ).

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    Nice try but you dont get to back pedal

    I said Id shoot they guy, your reply was "Which is why we have gun laws. Some people just can't be trusted."

    this CLEARLY implies you think id be breaking the law by shooting him and I cant be trusted. In both cases you ASSumed WRONG lol which is a FACT.

    also I am against "strict" gun laws which isnt hurt by anything I said here nor does my statement hurt any argument I made LOL

    thanks for playing
    Shooting an unarmed man when your life isn't imminent danger isn't against the law? I bet I could find a prosecutor who would try the case.
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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Shooting an unarmed man when your life isn't imminent danger isn't against the law? I bet I could find a prosecutor who would try the case.
    The child's life was in imminent danger, and besides...it's to easy to say you thought you saw him reach for a weapon. He's already committing a felony, so in a void of direct evidence, who's more believable?

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