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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    That argument is used here against arming the British police in general and allowing gun ownership here. The thought is that if guns were more available and the police were armed then muggers and thieves would arm themselves too.

    Trouble is, the wrong type of people can easily get guns here while the law-abiding can't. If this same scenario had happened here, this woman wouldn't have been able to order the would-be kidnapper to release her daughter.
    Yep strict gun laws mainly do a couple things, punish and endanger law abiding citizens and reward and empower criminals!

    Why because criminals dont give a **** about gun laws LMAO they will still have guns and I wont, it hinders my ablity to protect me and my family and gives them a greater upper hand.
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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    She couldn't shoot the kidnapper.. He was holding her 2 year old.
    Most people don't think like that when a gun is in their face. Most people instantly associate a gun with getting shot. This is why a lot of people ask the stupid question "why do you need a gun", and then folks like me make threads like this as an answer.

    And yes, she could have shot. At the tires, if nothing else. Even if she didn't disable the car, driving around with obvious gunshot holes is gong to get you noticed.
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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    I got one thing to say to this mom.

    Yippie Ki-Yay Mother****er.

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Most people don't like that when a gun is in their face. Most people instantly associate a gun with getting shot. This is why a lot of people ask the stupid question "why do you need a gun", and then folks like me make threads like this as an answer.

    And yes, she could have shot. At the tires, if nothing else. Even if she didn't disable the car, driving around with obvious gunshot holes is gong to get you noticed.
    Often a gun is not fired but still functions as a deterrent. Had the mom stood there holding a mop bucket instead of a shot gun I have no doubt the kidnapper's reactions would have been different.

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    This is why I 'need' a gun.
    I agree.

    You wouldn't have had to drop the two year old if you had a gun.











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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    She couldn't shoot the kidnapper.. He was holding her 2 year old.
    Yes she could. Just not thru her child. She also could have blown his car to pieces.

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes, as a deployed single father of 2, I want to abduct children

    This is the wrong thread to troll. Go be coy somewhere else.

    LOL this coming from the person who has admitted to just trolling threads before in the past? Puhhhlease. If you don't like people trolling your thread, maybe you shouldn't troll other people's threads.

    Back on topic though, I don't agree in taking away guns, however, yes there should be some gun control. I don't think a person should be able to fire off an M-60 whenever they want to in the neighborhoods. I think the gun control we have now though is pretty strict, however.

    Good on the mother having a shotgun, there is nothing wrong with that.

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    A shotgun is arguably the best home defense weapon their is and this lady did a great job with a great tool. Nice work mom.

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    That argument is used here against arming the British police in general and allowing gun ownership here. The thought is that if guns were more available and the police were armed then muggers and thieves would arm themselves too.
    That's not quite the same point as I was making (the difference between ability and desire) and it's far from the only argument against routine arming of UK police (most commonly made by the officers themselves).

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Trouble is, the wrong type of people can easily get guns here while the law-abiding can't.
    In the UK? I suggest that's generally a myth. The vast majority of criminals in the UK have no easy access to real, active firearms and apparently no great desire to use them. The key difference between the UK and the US is cultural though, rendering general comparisons largely meaningless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    If this same scenario had happened here, this woman wouldn't have been able to order the would-be kidnapper to release her daughter.
    True, but there are plenty of individual bad incidents in the US that couldn't have happened in the UK. None of that really tells us anything significant though.

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    Re: Mom with shotgun fends off daughter's would-be kidnapper.

    GOOD FOR HER!! Now let's hope the child won't have any memory of it. Did they catch the guy?

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