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    Re: Chicago Teachers Union Gives 10-Day Strike Notice

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What does one need for that, a 2 year degree? I never played pro football, but I can tell you the Phins are lookin' at lose.
    Varies. Not sure in Illinois. However, what does that have to do with it? Some people do walk on. And they make money as well

    Are they State employees?
    Which means what? They have no right to be paid? They have no desires, no sense of what they are worth? Again, why would they be different? Want different? Work for different?

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Union Gives 10-Day Strike Notice

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    Varies. Not sure in Illinois. However, what does that have to do with it? Some people do walk on. And they make money as well
    I don't see how being a certified teacher makes one particularly authoritative on the subject.

    Which means what? They have no right to be paid? They have no desires, no sense of what they are worth? Again, why would they be different? Want different? Work for different?
    State employees unionizing to pressure the state into paying them more isn't exactly capitalism.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Union Gives 10-Day Strike Notice

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What does one need for that, a 2 year degree? I never played pro football, but I can tell you the Phins are lookin' at lose.




    Are they State employees?
    aptitude for teaching, mostly
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    aptitude for teaching, mostly
    I don't see how aptitude matters in a State union job. You spend your time, you get your pay. Slugs love that action.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Union Gives 10-Day Strike Notice

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    What makes you say that? As in, what specific things have they said to make you think that?
    In this specific instance, nothing, it hasn't gone far enough. In other teacher strikes though, they've trotted kids out for TV commercials and the like.
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    Re: Chicago Teachers Union Gives 10-Day Strike Notice

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I don't see how being a certified teacher makes one particularly authoritative on the subject.
    Being educated in a subject, tested to make sure you know isn't being an authority? I susppose we could go with only someone not educated is an authority. Doctorates would cost more btw.

    State employees unionizing to pressure the state into paying them more isn't exactly capitalism.
    Like all other workers. Yep. And like all employers, the state doesn't have to give in. And if they do, you can vote them out. You're wasting your energy where you have no say. Try focusing on where you do. Instead of making excuses for them, act.

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    Re: Chicago Teachers Union Gives 10-Day Strike Notice

    It never ceases to amaze me how a special interest group can influence a political party to the point where not only do the politicians do their bidding, but the rank-and-file members of the party actually start peddling their ridiculous talking points. Democrats do it with unions; Republicans do it with corporations and rich people. Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well on both sides of the aisle.

    Teacher's unions (like other public sector unions) are an archaic institution that need to go the way of the dinosaur to make way for the 21st century. They are absolutely a force for mediocrity and the status quo. Not only do they stand in the way of their students' progress and overcharge the state relative to the market value of their services, but they actively push for policies that HARM society. They fully deserve all the criticism they receive.
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    criticism of the strike... Do you have an actual argument beyond the vague snark?
    the teachers mustn't strike because the state is bankrupt

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    Those teachers represent Chicago values
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    The interests of teachers and the interests of students often reinforce each other
    not when the incompetent are protected at the expense of the untenured young

    not when plum perks like pensions and 100 minutes of prep per day are vouchsafed ahead of talent and youth

    chris christie has demonstrated manifest leadership in dark blue trenton, has effected almost miraculous reform

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    louisiana's bobby jindal goes two farther---he would free up all kids in failing schools to use vouchers to exodus out of failure and incompetence, he would also do away with "last in, first out"

    Jindal Pushing Vouchers, Changes to Teacher Performance - State EdWatch - Education Week

    they are under no obligation to consider student interests in their activities
    i'd watch who i said that to if i were you, but i'm not, so help yourself

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