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    Re: Study: States Over 4T in Debt

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    Best places to do business rankings (Another Triumph for Texas: Best/Worst States for Business 2012 | ChiefExecutive.net | Chief Executive Magazine)
    California 50
    Florida 2
    Illinois 48
    New York 49
    Ohio 35
    Pennsylvania 43
    Texas 1

    Without changes in laws, this pretty much tells us where most business, other than local small business are going to be or move to.
    Sure, why not. Texas is handing businesses government cheese to move there and pretty much lets them do whatever they want. Awesome for businesses ... for Texans ... not so much. Texas has the highest rate of people with no health insurance of any state (one out of four Texans is uninsured), some of the worst schools in the country.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Study: States Over 4T in Debt

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    Texas has the highest rate of people with no health insurance of any state (one out of four Texans is uninsured)
    Are those folks without health insurance US citizens?

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    Re: Study: States Over 4T in Debt

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    Are those folks without health insurance US citizens?

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    Surely no coincidence that the states with the lowest rates of insurance have some of the highest levels of immigrants (Texas, New Mexico, Florida, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, California)

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    Re: Study: States Over 4T in Debt

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    Wait ... now they're blaming Obama for what STATE governments are doing?

    Hah . . . . he get's the blame for doing nothing in the last 4 years. Well except to add a trillion or 3 to the debt the taxpayer is going to have to pay.
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    Re: Study: States Over 4T in Debt

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure, why not. Texas is handing businesses government cheese to move there and pretty much lets them do whatever they want. Awesome for businesses ... for Texans ... not so much. Texas has the highest rate of people with no health insurance of any state (one out of four Texans is uninsured), some of the worst schools in the country.
    Having jobs because businesses move there is not good for Texans?

    Ok, so we have large numbers without healthcare insurance, but why? Texas does have a lower average wage than some other states, but it also has a lower cost of living. So no, they cannot always afford the rates that national companies charge for policies. But that is not a problem isolated in Texas, it is affecting the US also. There is much discussion elsewhere about the healthcare issue. I have always taken the stance that the biggest cost factor in healthcare was forcing healthcare companies to take the uninsured instead of the uninsured going to free clinics, charity and community hospitals. Without that added costs, healthcare would be far more affordable and less would be uninsured. Debate that all you want, but that is for a healthcare thread, not a debt thread. Although, Medicaid is a major portion of the budget and cause of some of that debt, our state actually lowered the amounts payable for medicaid to help the budget last year.

    The worst schools? Really. Report Card on American Education | ALEC American Legislative Exchange Council
    California--30
    Florida--12
    Illinois--28
    New York--10
    Ohio--21
    Pennsylvania--5
    Texas--11

    Illiteracy Rates Illiteracy rate by US state
    California--23%
    Florida--20%
    Illinois--13%
    New York--22%
    Ohio--9%
    Pennsylvania--13%
    Texas--19%

    While Texas is not the top performer for education in the US, it is very clear that they are not at the bottom either. Three of these states, California, Texas and Florida all have large immigrant populations. Texas and California are of course border states which undoubtedly affects their literacy rates. The data simply does not support your assertion that Texas has some of the worst schools in the nation, according to the rankings, it is actually doing pretty darned good.

    Thank you for bringing that up, so now we have examples of how conservationism (or at least the Texas version of it) and liberalism work on a fairly large scale for education. Not exactly the results that the liberal mantra of conservative states having bad education systems was looking for, is it.

    Any more stereotypical liberal stances about Texas you want to bring up?
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