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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Remember when cell phones first came out?


    They were pretty expensive, right?

    Remember when the Iphone was 600 bucks?
    And things got cheaper because they were popular, Apple could mass produce the iPhone at a much cheaper price than they had to pay when very few people bought them. Popularity brings the price down. The Volt is not popular.
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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Not just the Volt, all hybrids will get cheaper. Either that, or it's a sort of fad, no one will buy them, and the concept itself will die out.

    Or better yet, get replaced by the next better thing.

    Remember pagers? Or better yet, car phones, lol?



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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What I'm saying is, how many of you would buy a hybrid, of any brand, if they cost, say, 16K?
    I wouldn't.
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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Cell phones and smart phones did something other technology didn't do, and had a wider reaching market. Hybrids do the same thing other vehicles do, but are terrible to drive and far more expensive to purchase and maintain. Hybrids are a transitional technology. a compromise, and they do it terribly.
    Exactly...well put.

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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Cell phones and smart phones did something other technology didn't do, and had a wider reaching market. Hybrids do the same thing other vehicles do, but are terrible to drive and far more expensive to purchase and maintain. Hybrids are a transitional technology. a compromise, and they do it terribly.
    A compromise to what, 100% electric?

    Have you driven ALL hybrids to say so? Did you know ford makes a hybrid Explorer, that looks, and drives, the same as a reg explorer?

    Have you tried driving the Honda CR-Z?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not a gung ho hybrid fan. I still see issues with them, from an environmental standpoint, and from a utilitarian. But sometimes, in order to get to the next step, you gotta build one between the one you're on, and the one you wanna get to.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    GM is reported to have a cost advantage of $1000 per vehicle over Ford. Provided GM can continue to bring out competent vehicles that sell well (GM is number 1 or 2 for world wide sales) it should not need a bailout. Lets not mention the fact it is making as much money as Ford is.
    Thank you....while people are spiking the ball and doing a victory dance over an article spelling doom to a company that employees millions of American's diretion or via suppliers....they don't seem to realize that in actually GM is doing fine.
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    And we still have to figure out how to generate "clean" electricity. Personally, that's my biggest concern. I feel like electric cars are just trading one devil for another, unless the public all of a sudden embraces the idea of more nuclear power plants, which I highly doubt.

    Even hydrogen powered cars come with real issues, far beyond safety. What happens to, say, FL, if everyone started driving cars who's byproduct was moisture?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Since enviros are so stupid that they'd expect us to buy ecobuggies, shouldn't we question the competence of their scientific theories too? These are really B students jealous of A students, whose glory is the products they invented for industrialization.
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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Since enviros are so stupid that they'd expect us to buy ecobuggies, shouldn't we question the competence of their scientific theories too? These are really B students jealous of A students, whose glory is the products they invented for industrialization.
    Are you saying that you believe that oil is an infinite product?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree auto buying goes in trends...Dealers couldnt keep minivans on the lots..there were waiting lists for them in the 90s now they sell very very few... Suvs flew off lots for years...ford explorers made ford rich in the 90s they sold so many...now the trend is changing....there will always be a hot item in the auto industry and then theres their constants...like pickup trucks..
    I think it will be good while before hybrids and electrics really grab the mass's it takes along time to ween americans off the stuff they love
    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What I'm saying is, how many of you would buy a hybrid, of any brand, if they cost, say, 16K?
    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Cell phones and smart phones did something other technology didn't do, and had a wider reaching market. Hybrids do the same thing other vehicles do, but are terrible to drive and far more expensive to purchase and maintain. Hybrids are a transitional technology. a compromise, and they do it terribly.
    I don't think hybrids are ultimately the answer, but they are an important transitional technology. It has the effect of slowly getting consumers used to the idea. Ultimately, I think straight up electric is the answer. But as it stands now, they cost too much, have limited range, and the infrastructure is building but needs more development. So hybrids are handy for the time being because they function as a showcase for an emerging technology. Hybrids probably are a fad that will fade with time. If all goes well, a transition to strictly electric will follow. At the point, energy consumed in the US will be strictly American energy production insuring American jobs. For this too happen, emerging technology will be expensive as all are at the outset. But without people buying the existing technology, there is no push for independent manufacturers to develop the technology to make it better. Auto makers will do far more than a government research lab to develop electric vehicles, so it's important that the hybrid and EV market be supported as much as possible. If people buy the cars, the cars will get better, and they will get cheaper too.
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