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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    The Volt is built off the Cruze platform, not the Malibu
    The Cruze has a hybrid already, the Cruze Eco. Now while I personally own a Cruze, the Eco is just overpriced crap. The Volt is even worse. No wonder nobody is buying it.
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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Screw the Volt, I want a Tesla. Electric cars are only going to succeed when they look as sexy and awesome as a Model S, and perform as well.

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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Screw the Volt, I want a Tesla. Electric cars are only going to succeed when they look as sexy and awesome as a Model S, and perform as well.
    Electric cars are only going to succeed if they have long-distance capability and super-fast recharging. If you only get to go 60 miles and then have to recharge for 8 hours, it's an utter failure. It doesn't matter what they look like.
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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Electric cars are only going to succeed if they have long-distance capability and super-fast recharging. If you only get to go 60 miles and then have to recharge for 8 hours, it's an utter failure. It doesn't matter what they look like.
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    The baseline Model S has a 150 mile charge, with the top line model holding a 300 mile charge, which for a suburban or city vehicle isn't bad at all.

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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If 50% are buying Ford because Ford was not bailed out, it speaks poorly for Ford

    If people are only buying your product because they dont want your competitors for political reasons, your product must not be very good
    I'm going to have to disagree with Mr. Ewanik on that. The Ford owners I know are diehard Ford guys, and buy Fords simply because they love Ford. I've had to drive Chevy's before, and it's easy for me to see why their sales are down. It has nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with Chevy cars being big ole pieces of ****. The only thing they make that's worth a damn is the Silverado, but even those have been lacking in quality recently. Just let them fail, they aren't the only automaker in the world.
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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Couple of things. I'm no Obama supporter but the Volt was a long term project that actually started pre-bailout when G.W. was president independently of the government interference that started under the Obama administration. I'm no fan of the bailout because frankly GM should have gone into bankruptcy and then used that to "get lean" properly, subsidizing the company only allowed for poor decisions to be taxpayer subsidized. I HATED the Volt concept from the beginning, it was a half-assed attempt to convince the public that a hybrid was an electric with long range.............It's a hybrid. Third, stylistically it was a piece, I didn't like the "aggressive" version of the car that got scaled down to the Cruze specs which are pretty generic.

    What was starting to be a very good GM concept in the mid-2000s of differentiating, increasing quality, and style turned back into "we'll just follow the leader" and I don't like it.
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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    No Car company can market a vehicle to the mass's today at 40k plus. The volt could only play to a niche market to start with.
    Americans are not going to buy cars they have to plug in until they have no other choices or gasoline cost gets a point its obviously cheaper to plug in.

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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    No Car company can market a vehicle to the mass's today at 40k plus. The volt could only play to a niche market to start with.
    Americans are not going to buy cars they have to plug in until they have no other choices or gasoline cost gets a point its obviously cheaper to plug in.
    People would buy an electric if it actually was practical IMO. The thing is even look at my city, it's around 40 square miles in diameter so you factor that the long range on most electrics is 40 miles then you have a car that can't even exit a mid-sized city let alone go on a road trip, then there's the argument of short city drives, sure, but then if you get into heavy traffic situations, have something come up, etc. then the car is at a huge disadvantage. The drawback to gas is the supply/demand curve involved but it takes around 5 min. to fill up, more maximum HP, and longer range. Whereas the hybrids suffer from lack of power, expensive maintenance, etc. and the electrics fall quite short on range versus how long you have to charge them.
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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    People would buy an electric if it actually was practical IMO. The thing is even look at my city, it's around 40 square miles in diameter so you factor that the long range on most electrics is 40 miles then you have a car that can't even exit a mid-sized city let alone go on a road trip, then there's the argument of short city drives, sure, but then if you get into heavy traffic situations, have something come up, etc. then the car is at a huge disadvantage. The drawback to gas is the supply/demand curve involved but it takes around 5 min. to fill up, more maximum HP, and longer range. Whereas the hybrids suffer from lack of power, expensive maintenance, etc. and the electrics fall quite short on range versus how long you have to charge them.

    For all the reasons you mentioned is why GM made the volt a hybrid and not a full electric. Full electrics CANT do what you want them to do now, no matter who builds them..until they can increase battery life and distance and decrease the weight. They have made big strides in batteries and they are working feverishly to improve battery power and decrease the weight and charge times. Until they get that technology full electric cars are going nowhere and hybrids will be king.

    To prove that point the Prius is a HUGELY popular car and outsells most cars in its class...its a hybrid but you can buy a version for 20k...if the volt was under 25k it may very well have been somewhat of a success...it was just too damn expensive for the average american. It was in lexus country

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    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    I said it before - the only people that buy Volt's are green fanatics and/or automotive ignoramuses.

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