Page 14 of 23 FirstFirst ... 41213141516 ... LastLast
Results 131 to 140 of 228

Thread: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

  1. #131
    Sage

    Mason66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:10 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    19,426

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    The Volt is actually the first true series hybrid.

    An electric car with an auxilliary generator for long trips.

    Diesel locomotives are similar.

    Other hybrid techs are less efficient, basically regular cars with an elwctric assist.

    But its ugly like a butt. Generic and nondescript.

    Tech win. Style fail.
    ou forgot

    Demand. Fail

    Why build a car nobody wants nor asked for?

  2. #132
    Sage

    Mason66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:10 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    19,426

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    I'm going to have to disagree with Mr. Ewanik on that. The Ford owners I know are diehard Ford guys, and buy Fords simply because they love Ford. I've had to drive Chevy's before, and it's easy for me to see why their sales are down. It has nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with Chevy cars being big ole pieces of ****. The only thing they make that's worth a damn is the Silverado, but even those have been lacking in quality recently. Just let them fail, they aren't the only automaker in the world.
    Recently?

    10 Char

  3. #133
    Sage
    AdamT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    02-13-13 @ 04:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    17,773

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    It does seem that way, but there is no reason a hybrid could not be a big 4X4 truck with lots of
    giddy-up. A hybrid could also be an incredible sports car with all wheel drive and full low end torque.
    If done right, we would have to rethink all of the conventional wisdom about cars.
    There are numerous smokin'-fast electric and hybrid cars ... for a price.

    Here's a wheel-motor series hybrid ... that gets to 60 mph in under THREE seconds: http://mashable.com/2011/05/06/elect...guar-supercar/

    and this one, among others: Electric Supercar Blows Doors Off Tesla : Discovery News
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

    -- Adam Smith

  4. #134
    Sage
    Cephus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    CA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    29,749

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    I'd really like to have this Mini. This has motors in each wheel. This is doing it right.


    Electric Mini: 0-60 in 4 Seconds: It Has Motors In Its Wheels : TreeHugger
    Sure, then you're stuck driving a piece of crap Mini.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

    Blog me! YouTube me! VidMe me!

  5. #135
    Sage

    Mason66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:10 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    19,426

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What I'm saying is, how many of you would buy a hybrid, of any brand, if they cost, say, 16K?
    What car costs 16K now hybrid or regular?

    A decent car is 20k and up now.

  6. #136
    Sage

    Mason66's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:10 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    19,426

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Try the Highlander Hybrid. It's actually faster than the V6 gas-only version, gets 10 mpg better in the city in about 5 mpg better on the highway. We've had one for six years and it's an excellent vehicle.
    How much extra did it cost over the comparable straight gas version?

  7. #137
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    23,341

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    GM is reported to have a cost advantage of $1000 per vehicle over Ford. Provided GM can continue to bring out competent vehicles that sell well (GM is number 1 or 2 for world wide sales) it should not need a bailout. Lets not mention the fact it is making as much money as Ford is.
    Please don't mess up the right wing rhetoric with facts. GM must fail or Obama is not a socialist agitator. That's what happens when you paint yourself into a corner

  8. #138
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    12,416
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    ou forgot

    Demand. Fail

    Why build a car nobody wants nor asked for?
    From what i understand, interest was high until they decided to neuter the aesthetics.

    So styling is hurting it, NOT the technology.

    How many different hybrids does toyota offer now? 5-6?

    And of course lets bot forget the overall condition of the economy.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

  9. #139
    Sage
    EagleAye's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Last Seen
    03-28-13 @ 09:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    5,697

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    (1) I'll concede that at least on paper, restrictions on nuclear have been eased. A few have been approved. No new or expanded are as yet on line as far as I know.
    Time will tell whether other restrictions will be put in place, or whether we are looking at an example similar to the Canada La pipeline. I hope you are right.

    (2) I never said that we are not part of the worldwide energy market. Thatwe are is true. What is not true is the notion that because we are now a part of the world market that increasing supply will not lower costs. If, somehow we did increase energy output (not necessarily oil) to the point that US prices were so low that other world suppliers would no longer sell us energy, would that not indicate that we have won the decades old quest to make ourselves energy independent? Let France and Japan buy their energy from the mideast at $100 a barrel, while we are paying $50, and watch the jobs return home. If, due to low prices we become a supplier to the rest of the world, then the market would tend to level out, but at a price lower than the present prices. That's how the market works. If we do produce more than we can use, why is that a bad thing? The only possible reason that then the "alternate" market would fall on its face. Already, NG prices have fallen to the point that some nuclear projects have been postponed as being non economical.

    The bolded statement just makes no sense. Of course, if new drilling produces more product, it will increase world supplies, which will drive prices down. How much depends on the increase in world supply and demand.
    The links I supplied above refer ONLY to oil, not energy in general. Oil markets are affected by, but not solely influenced b,y supply and demand. If France and Japan are paying $100/barrel, then that's what we pay, even if the oil is drilled domestically. That's the way the oil markets work. Things like gasoline and coal and NG are priced differently and more along the lines of basic supply and demand. So gasoline (made from oil) could get lower domestically if we overproduced, but oil prices would only be minimally effected. We do have a lot of oil, but comparing that quantity to the entire rest of the world, it's not that much. So more of our own oil won't change prices so much.

    Now I do like NG. We should try to use it more. We've got a lot of it and the price is cheap. I like the idea of replacing our coal plants (and selling the excess coal to China) and using NG instead.

    The thing I like about EVs is their source power could be damned near anything. When first using EVs, we might use a lot of coal. 10 years later, we're using more NG, but even the old EVs still work just fine. 10 more years and we might have more nuclear power. Doesn't matter. Even the old EVs can still work with it. Anything that produces electricity works just fine with EVs. Current ICE cars ONLY work with gasoline/diesel. Whereas EVs function with any source. See the advantages?
    Check out my Blog http://momusnews.wordpress.com/
    Sherry's Photography site: http://www.sheywicklundphotos.com/

  10. #140
    Klattu Verata Nicto
    LaMidRighter's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Louisiana
    Last Seen
    07-21-17 @ 02:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    30,534

    Re: GM Suspending Chevy Volt Output Due To Slow Sales

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    From what i understand, interest was high until they decided to neuter the aesthetics.
    Nope, it was actually nothing more than a blip. The automotive media was interested in it because it was an American hybrid but most people didn't even know about the car much less demand it.

    So styling is hurting it, NOT the technology.
    It's both. The styling for the concept looked aggressive and was cut down. The promises of mileage didn't pan out and GM looked dishonest and a bit stupid, causing a perception problem in an already low demand vehicle.
    How many different hybrids does toyota offer now? 5-6?
    WHich don't outsell any other car offered in class.

    And of course lets bot forget the overall condition of the economy.
    Had nothing to do with the Volt. GM is selling other cars, which are outperforming the Volt by leaps and bounds in the market.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

Page 14 of 23 FirstFirst ... 41213141516 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •