On the outside, trickling down on the insiders.
We won't live free until the 1% live in fear.
Hey, richboys! Imagine the boot of democracy stomping on your faces, forever.
I've always had trouble figuring out why conservatives hate clean energy. It's like they WANTED the Volt to fail.
If anyone could explain any logic and not rhetoric behind this, I'm all ears.
Our nanny state has taken up the liberal man's burden, to show the poor unenlightened how
they should live their lives, what they can drive, what they can eat, where they can smoke,...ect.
In the name of freedom, they are limiting peoples freedom to choose.
If and I say if the volt fails, it will not be because someone wanted it to fail, but because of poor planning
that brought a product to market with a cost of goods sold higher than it's market value.
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http://www.treehugger.com/cars/elect...ts-wheels.htmlA British engineering firm has put together a high-performance hybrid version of BMW's Mini Cooper. The PML Mini QED has a top speed of 150 mph, a 0-60 mph time of 4.5 seconds. The car uses a small gasoline engine with four 160 horsepower electric motors — one on each wheel. The car has been designed to run for four hours of combined urban/extra urban driving, powered only by a battery and bank of ultra capacitors. The QED supports an all-electric range of 200-250 miles and has a total range of about 932 miles (1,500 km).
"I've always had trouble figuring out why conservatives hate clean energy. It's like they WANTED the Volt to fail."
you used rhetorical words like hate and wanted.
I don't think many actually hate clean energy, or want dirty water or air. That is just election speak.
I am not sure you can answer a question based on emotion with logic.
Many people find it offensive to be told they have to change how they do things.
Time will tell whether other restrictions will be put in place, or whether we are looking at an example similar to the Canada La pipeline. I hope you are right.
(2) I never said that we are not part of the worldwide energy market. Thatwe are is true. What is not true is the notion that because we are now a part of the world market that increasing supply will not lower costs. If, somehow we did increase energy output (not necessarily oil) to the point that US prices were so low that other world suppliers would no longer sell us energy, would that not indicate that we have won the decades old quest to make ourselves energy independent? Let France and Japan buy their energy from the mideast at $100 a barrel, while we are paying $50, and watch the jobs return home. If, due to low prices we become a supplier to the rest of the world, then the market would tend to level out, but at a price lower than the present prices. That's how the market works. If we do produce more than we can use, why is that a bad thing? The only possible reason that then the "alternate" market would fall on its face. Already, NG prices have fallen to the point that some nuclear projects have been postponed as being non economical.
The bolded statement just makes no sense. Of course, if new drilling produces more product, it will increase world supplies, which will drive prices down. How much depends on the increase in world supply and demand.
It was a certainty, as I stated earlier the Volt was originally conceptualized around '07 during the Bush administration and I knew it was a bad idea then. The concept was better than the released version(That's usual) but even the concept was woefully lacking in everything but looks. There's nothing political in my statements against that car but rather I love the GM brand and was concerned that they were gonna eat that turkey.It's like they WANTED the Volt to fail.
Once tech catches up the market will embrace alternatives, till then it is wasteful to subsidize less productive alternatives and economically damaging. I think there is a better way, first I'd like to see magnetic motors be more thouroughly researced, they can theoretically produce the torque and power required to replace FF powerplants, and if done right can have multiple times the range, they are incredibly efficient. As well I would love to see hydrogen tech take off as I think that has great potential, but wind, solar, electrical, and hybrid are just not there.If anyone could explain any logic and not rhetoric behind this, I'm all ears.
Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.