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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Hmmm...considering these are federal employees, shoudn't this be just a workplace violence case?
    They should get the death penalty for plotting to kill the president.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Did these kids know each other or find each other in the Army? Basic failed them.
    In a videotaped interview with military investigators, Pauley said, Aguigui called himself "the nicest cold-blooded murderer you will ever meet."

    He used the Army to recruit militia members, who wore distinctive tattoos that resemble an anarchy symbol, she said. Prosecutors say they have no idea how many members belong to the group.

    "All members of the group were on active-duty or were former members of the military," Pauley said. "He targeted soldiers who were in trouble or disillusioned."

    (he used the Army to recruit members.)

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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Hmmm...considering these are federal employees, shoudn't this be just a workplace violence case?
    More like treason, I think.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They should get the death penalty for plotting to kill the president.
    Joking man, joking.

    Thought it was obvious.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

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    Prosecutors said the group called itself F.E.A.R., short for Forever Enduring Always Ready. Pauley said authorities don't know how many members it had.

    Burnett, 26, said he knew the group's leaders from serving with them at Fort Stewart. He agreed to testify against fellow soldiers Pvt. Isaac Aguigui, identified by prosecutors as the militia's founder and leader, and Sgt. Anthony Peden and Pvt. Christopher Salmon.

    All are charged by state authorities with malice murder, felony murder, criminal gang activity, aggravated assault and using a firearm while committing a felony. A hearing for the three soldiers was scheduled Thursday.

    Prosecutors say Roark, 19, served with the four defendants in the 4th Brigade Combat Team of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division and became involved with the militia. Pauley said the group believed it had been betrayed by Roark, who left the Army two days before he was killed, and decided the ex-soldier and his girlfriend needed to be silenced.

    Burnett testified that on the night of Dec. 4, he and the three other soldiers lured Roark and York to some woods a short distance from the Army post under the guise that they were going target shooting. He said Peden shot Roark's girlfriend in the head while she was trying to get out of her car. Salmon, he said, made Roark get on his knees and shot him twice in the head. Burnett said Aguigui ordered the killings.

    "A 'loose end' is the way Isaac put it," Burnett said.

    Aguigui's attorney, Daveniya Fisher, did not immediately return a phone call from The Associated Press. Attorneys for Peden and Salmon both declined to comment Monday.

    Also charged in the killings is Salmon's wife, Heather Salmon. Her attorney, Charles Nester, did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

    Pauley said Aguigui funded the militia using $500,000 in insurance and benefit payments from the death of his pregnant wife a year ago. Aguigui was not charged in his wife's death, but Pauley told the judge her death was "highly suspicious."

    She said Aguigui used the money to buy $87,000 worth of semiautomatic assault rifles, other guns and bomb components that were recovered from the accused soldiers' homes and from a storage locker. He also used the insurance payments to buy land for his militia group in Washington state, Pauley said.

    In a videotaped interview with military investigators, Pauley said, Aguigui called himself "the nicest cold-blooded murderer you will ever meet." He used the Army to recruit militia members, who wore distinctive tattoos that resemble an anarchy symbol, she said. Prosecutors say they have no idea how many members belong to the group.

    "All members of the group were on active-duty or were former members of the military," Pauley said. "He targeted soldiers who were in trouble or disillusioned."

    The prosecutor said the militia group had big plans. It plotted to take over Fort Stewart by seizing its ammunition control point and talked of bombing the Forsyth Park fountain in nearby Savannah, she said. In Washington state, she added, the group plotted to bomb a dam and poison the state's apple crop. Ultimately, prosecutors said, the militia's goal was to overthrow the government and assassinate the president.

    Fort Stewart spokesman Kevin Larson said the Army has dropped its own charges against the four soldiers in the slayings of Roark and York. The Military authorities filed their charges in March but never acted on them. Fort Stewart officials Monday refused to identify the units the accused soldiers served in and their jobs within those units.

    "Fort Stewart-Hunter Army Airfield does not have a gang or militia problem," Larson said in a prepared statement, though he said Army investigators still have an open investigation in the case.

    "However, we don't believe there are any unknown subjects," he said.

    District Attorney Tom Durden said his office has been sharing information with federal authorities, but no charges have been filed in federal court. Jim Durham, an assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Georgia, would not comment on whether a case is pending.
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    (Well, they have a gang problem NOW)
    now that is one ignorant statement
    which must undermine any credibility of the source
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    None of us saw this last week when it would have fit the definition used here of "Breaking News"

    Neo-Nazis Are Using the Army as a Training Camp

    White supremacists aren't the type of people you want to train to be unstoppable fighting machines, but that doesn't mean they're not signing up for the call of duty. In a disturbing Reuters investigation, Daniel Trotta uncovers the campaign by neo-Nazis and certain skinhead groups to encourage enlistment in the Army and Marine Corps so members can learn the skills to overthrow the government, or in neo-Nazi speak, the Zionist Occupation Government. "They call it 'rahowa' - short for racial holy war - and they are preparing for it by joining the ranks of ... the U.S. military," writes Trotta. "Get in, get trained and get out to brace for the coming race war."

    The recruiting practice is gaining scrutiny in light of the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting by gunman Wade Michael Page, a former U.S. Army soldier and neo-Nazi musician. As CNN reported last week, Page's base, Fort Bragg, "was home to a small number of white supremacists including three soldiers later convicted in the murder of an African-American couple."
    Southern Poverty Law Center posted an article last year interviewing the man who had led the group investigating right-wing extremism.
    Daryl Johnson, who headed the DHS unit responsible for analyzing security threats from non-Islamic domestic extremists, was the principal author of the April 7, 2009, report "Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment."

    The report was intended only for distribution to law enforcement agencies. But after it was leaked to the media, a firestorm erupted among conservative commentators who wrongly claimed it equated conservatives with terrorists. Within days, Napolitano had disowned it.

    Johnson, who was interviewed for the upcoming summer issue of the SPLC’s Intelligence Report, said that following the controversy, the DHS dismantled the intelligence team that studied the threat from right-wing extremists and that the department no longer produces its own analytical reports on that subject. When the 2009 report was written, there were six analysts in the unit, including Johnson. Today, he said, there is one.
    When ever I read some rightie calling out the Administration for being infiltrated by "commies and anti-Americans", this is just one more instance in which I have seen the Obama people react more quickly to right-wing pushes than to left-wing cries.

    More from the SPLC - Terror From the Right
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    now that is one ignorant statement
    which must undermine any credibility of the source
    I agree.. and saying there is no militia or gang activity at Fort Stewart????

    Obviously there is.

    I hope they throw the book at them.. An American Taliban or Al Qaeda is NOT wht we need.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    Their planning to poison Washington's apple crop sounded just plain loony. But, obviously, very dangerous loons, since they murdered two people. Hubby reminded me how Oregon's "Rajneeshee's" contaminated food in a surrounding town with Salmonellae, about 30 years ago. They were a kook religious group.
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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Did these kids know each other or find each other in the Army? Basic failed them.
    Not for sure exactly what "Basic" has to do with it or how it failed them. The job of Basic Military training is to take civilian individuals, give them the basics needed to funciton as part of a Military team and a basic skill set of military skills. What does that have to do with the fact they apparently formed an anti-government (or at least anti-Obama) anarchist group? They failed themselves and their parents/guardians failed them by not teaching them proper ways to handle fustration with not getting what they want. Instead of dealing with it in an adult fashion, they are attempting to lash out like some 3 year old that was told no. Maybe, just maybe, Basic failed to instill in them proper dicipline, but then that is not supprising considering all the powder-puff, kid glove, psychobable methods of instilling discipline that the military is currently forced to endure.

    On the plus side, considering that they should of had geater understanding of force application, strategy and tactics than a civilian is expected to have, they still made stupid choices and had absolutely no clue how to achieve their mission objectives.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Ga. murder case uncovers terror plot

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Not for sure exactly what "Basic" has to do with it or how it failed them. The job of Basic Military training is to take civilian individuals, give them the basics needed to funciton as part of a Military team and a basic skill set of military skills. What does that have to do with the fact they apparently formed an anti-government (or at least anti-Obama) anarchist group? They failed themselves and their parents/guardians failed them by not teaching them proper ways to handle fustration with not getting what they want. Instead of dealing with it in an adult fashion, they are attempting to lash out like some 3 year old that was told no. Maybe, just maybe, Basic failed to instill in them proper dicipline, but then that is not supprising considering all the powder-puff, kid glove, psychobable methods of instilling discipline that the military is currently forced to endure.

    On the plus side, considering that they should of had geater understanding of force application, strategy and tactics than a civilian is expected to have, they still made stupid choices and had absolutely no clue how to achieve their mission objectives.
    Interesting. When I went through basic training, and then later OBC, pride in our country was definitely instilled into us. Things must have changed.
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