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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    If we didn't go there to invade and control it, then why did we go there, invade, change their government and control it?
    The Taliban government was harboring terrorists who had committed an act of war on our soil. We went there to kill the terrorists and destroy the government that allowed them to flourish. We stayed to try to leave a society that would not endanger us, but we have failed because there seems to be no way to civilize those monkeys; the only answer may well be to turn the country into a glowing glass parking lot.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    The Taliban government was harboring terrorists who had committed an act of war on our soil. We went there to kill the terrorists and destroy the government that allowed them to flourish. We stayed to try to leave a society that would not endanger us, but we have failed because there seems to be no way to civilize those monkeys; the only answer may well be to turn the country into a glowing glass parking lot.
    I say we just leave. If they come here, we kill them when they get here. If they stay there...fine.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I say we just leave. If they come here, we kill them when they get here. If they stay there...fine.
    That was the Clinton-era philosophy that gave us 9/11.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    That was the Clinton-era philosophy that gave us 9/11.
    Just because you don't see the blood on American streets, Americans are dying over there. More than the amount dying here. We toppled their government, we killed everyone we could think of, let's leave.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    I can't believe some of the things I'm reading. We can't just nuke them. Let's be realistic. And we'll never kill all the terrorists. We should get our people out of there and keep a close eye on them and hope that our intelligence gathering has improved since 9/11. We can't stay there forever.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Just because you don't see the blood on American streets, Americans are dying over there. More than the amount dying here. We toppled their government, we killed everyone we could think of, let's leave.
    As long as Americans are dying over there, we clearly haven't killed enough of them.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I can't believe some of the things I'm reading. We can't just nuke them. Let's be realistic. And we'll never kill all the terrorists. We should get our people out of there and keep a close eye on them and hope that our intelligence gathering has improved since 9/11. We can't stay there forever.
    Our intelligence gathering has suffered since 9/11 since we can no longer use enhanced interrogation. In fact, our intelligence gathering has been going downhill since the Church commission back in the seventies decided that we should no longer associate with unsavory characters; that pushed us into remote sensing type intelligence, using satellites and drones, and it just isn't as good as it should be without human intelligence gathering.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Our intelligence gathering has suffered since 9/11 since we can no longer use enhanced interrogation. In fact, our intelligence gathering has been going downhill since the Church commission back in the seventies decided that we should no longer associate with unsavory characters; that pushed us into remote sensing type intelligence, using satellites and drones, and it just isn't as good as it should be without human intelligence gathering.
    Okay, but we still can't stay there forever trying to get ALL the terrorists. It's unrealistic IMO. I think that place is lost cause and we should just get the heck out.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I can't believe some of the things I'm reading. We can't just nuke them. Let's be realistic. And we'll never kill all the terrorists. We should get our people out of there and keep a close eye on them and hope that our intelligence gathering has improved since 9/11. We can't stay there forever.
    Why not nuke em? Kill everyone there. We dont have to kill all the terrorists just scare the hell out of their supporters else where.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Why not nuke em? Kill everyone there. We dont have to kill all the terrorists just scare the hell out of their supporters else where.
    That will never happen.

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