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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini is a novel that tracks three generations of Afghan women: one came of age under the king, another came of age under the Soviets, and the third came of age under the Taliban.

    It is probably the most depressing story I've ever read, and it's difficult to contemplate the story without wanting to do something about it. Sharia law would shame a troop of baboons, and it is hard to see how those animals can ever be civilized without totally crushing the cesspool they call a culture. I recommend the book to anyone with the misguided notion that these creatures can be treated as a civilized people.
    That is moving to the top of my must read list.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm talking about the book, dude!
    Do you have anything else any other source? Because i honestly dont have time to read a whole book.
    Because if that is the facts then there should be multiple sources.


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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Do you have anything else any other source? Because i honestly dont have time to read a whole book.
    Because if that is the facts then there should be multiple sources.
    Just accept that you're mistaken. Your own sources prove that. If you don't want to educate yourself, that's not my problem.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Just accept that you're mistaken. Your own sources prove that. If you don't want to educate yourself, that's not my problem.
    How am I mistaken. We gave aid to the Mujhadeen which then sects within them became the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Your claiming we only gave aid to the good mujhadeen who didnt become the Taliban and Al Qaeda and all you have told me to do is read a book.


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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How am I mistaken.
    You're mistaken, in that we didn't just throw a buncha cash to everyone that claimed to be the Mujahadeen.

    We gave aid to the Mujhadeen which then sects within them became the Taliban and Al Qaeda.
    No! We didn't! Get with the program. It's already been explained and supported with credible documenation.

    Your claiming we only gave aid to the good mujhadeen who didnt become the Taliban and Al Qaeda
    I enver claimed any such thing. What happened, was that the CIA picked an elite core of mujas that had shown past success against the Soviets and those are the units they chose to fund and train. Those units were led by Massoud and eventually became The Northern Alliance.

    and all you have told me to do is read a book.
    OMG!!! The horror!!!! God forbid you read a book and learn something!

    Stop with the political spin. The United States didn't create the Taliban, nor al Qaeda. It was twisted cocksuckers like Usama Bin Laden that did that.
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    17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How am I mistaken. We gave aid to the Mujhadeen which then sects within them became the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Your claiming we only gave aid to the good mujhadeen who didnt become the Taliban and Al Qaeda and all you have told me to do is read a book.
    Your post kind of defeats your arguments. So if people donate to the DNC and then a member of the DNC and former supporter of...say...a congresswoman in Arizona...then becomes a rabid prick that guns down a judge, a few others, and pops the congresswoman for good measure do we blame people that contribute to the DNC? The DNC?
    Our government was supporting people fighting against the soviet takeover in Afghanistan. Some of those people went a little rabid...upset over non-Muslims fighting in their country.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Your post kind of defeats your arguments. So if people donate to the DNC and then a member of the DNC and former supporter of...say...a congresswoman in Arizona...then becomes a rabid prick that guns down a judge, a few others, and pops the congresswoman for good measure do we blame people that contribute to the DNC? The DNC?
    Our government was supporting people fighting against the soviet takeover in Afghanistan. Some of those people went a little rabid...upset over non-Muslims fighting in their country.
    The Libbos will always blame America, because they can't blame the real culprits...the goddamn Communists! The entire reason for the Sovier intervention in Afghanistan, was the prop up the socialist revolutionary government, that came to power in the Soviet supported Saur Revolution.

    I would post a source, but--god forbid--it might require someone to read a book, or something crazy like that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Libbos will always blame America, because they can't blame the real culprits...the goddamn Communists! The entire reason for the Sovier intervention in Afghanistan, was the prop up the socialist revolutionary government, that came to power in the Soviet supported Saur Revolution.

    I would post a source, but--god forbid--it might require someone to read a book, or something crazy like that.
    Actually the root of that conflict goes way back to the 1800s during the "Great Game" conflict between the Brits and Tsarist Russia.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Actually the root of that conflict goes way back to the 1800s during the "Great Game" conflict between the Brits and Tsarist Russia.
    Bla...bla...bla...whatever! There's no escaping the fact that the true breeders of the Taliban were the Soviets and the struggle in Afghanistan, during the 80's was gainst Communist oppression of the world.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How am I mistaken. We gave aid to the Mujhadeen which then sects within them became the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Your claiming we only gave aid to the good mujhadeen who didnt become the Taliban and Al Qaeda and all you have told me to do is read a book.
    That is correct more or less, but it isn't a small bit of quibbling it is a massive distinction. The US did not fund or support the Taliban or al-Qaeda, and to be specific it is unlikely that any US funding ended up in the hands of al-Qaeda since like most small Arab groups they did not receive heavy patronage from Pakistan's ISI or from Rabbani's Afghan group, and instead supported themselves with Arab donations and familial largesse. As for the Taliban it is important to note that it was a new group, it drew from rank and file fighters from many disparate organizations but began as a small group, and came into contact and conflict with many of the existing groups in Afghanistan.

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