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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Right, the units that evolved into the Taliban were only PART of the Mujahadeen. The entire Mujahadeen didn't evolve imto the Taliban
    But parts of the Mujhadeen where... They both were fundamental Islamic fighters.. And we supported them. Then they turned around and bit us in the ass...


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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    The Taliban didn't exist in the 80's.

    Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    But parts of the Mujhadeen where... They both were fundamental Islamic fighters.. And we supported them. Then they turned around and bit us in the ass...
    We never supported the muja units that became the Taliban.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We never supported the muja units that became the Taliban.
    Uhhh yes we did...
    We supported the whole Mujahideen. Hell we even supported Osama who then created Al Qaeda...


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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    A Thousand Splendid Suns by Khaled Hosseini is a novel that tracks three generations of Afghan women: one came of age under the king, another came of age under the Soviets, and the third came of age under the Taliban.

    It is probably the most depressing story I've ever read, and it's difficult to contemplate the story without wanting to do something about it. Sharia law would shame a troop of baboons, and it is hard to see how those animals can ever be civilized without totally crushing the cesspool they call a culture. I recommend the book to anyone with the misguided notion that these creatures can be treated as a civilized people.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Those men in the picture are not the Taliban.
    Dont let facts get in the way of a good anti-Reagan 'gotcha' moment. Never mind that the US primarily supported the actual Taliban groups in 1994-1997. Under the...what was that guys name then...the president...from like...1992 to 2000...

    oh well...never mind. Its not important...

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Uhhh yes we did...
    We supported the whole Mujahideen. Hell we even supported Osama who then created Al Qaeda...
    Should be a piece-a-cake to come up with a credible source.

    I'll help you a little by pointing out that "Charlie Wilson's" war, widely accepted as a definitive work about American involvment in the Afghan-Soviet War says you're wrong.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Should be a piece-a-cake to come up with a credible source.

    I'll help you a little by pointing out that "Charlie Wilson's" war, widely accepted as a definitive work about American involvment in the Afghan-Soviet War says you're wrong.
    Operation Cyclone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "he U.S. offered two packages of economic assistance and military sales to support Pakistan's role in the war against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. The first six-year assistance package (1981–87) amounted to US$3.2 billion, equally divided between economic assistance and military sales. The U.S. also sold 40 F-16 aircraft to Pakistan during 1983–87 at a cost of $1.2 billion outside the assistance package. The second six-year assistance package (1987–93) amounted to $4.2 billion. Out of this, $2.28 billion were allocated for economic assistance in the form of grants or loan that carried the interest rate of 2–3 per cent. The rest of the allocation ($1.74 billion) was in the form of credit for military purchases."

    Clinton admits to US support for Bin Laden & creation of Taliban | Rupee News
    "The Taliban was a construct of the CIA and was armed by the CIA….Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher
    It seemed like a great idea, back in the ’80s to– embolden– and train and equip– Taliban, mujahidin, jihadists against the Soviet Union, which had invaded Afghanistan. And with our help, and with the Pakistani support– this group– including, at that time, Bin Laden, defeated the Soviet Union. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Oct. 7th, 2009"

    al-Qaeda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "U.S. government financial support for the Afghan Islamic militants was substantial. Aid to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, an Afghan mujahideen leader. and founder and leader of the Hezb-e Islami radical Islamic militant faction, alone amounted "by the most conservative estimates" to $600 million. Later, in the early 1990s, after the U.S. had withdrawn support, Hekmatyar "worked closely" with bin Laden."


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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Operation Cyclone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "he U.S. offered two packages of economic assistance and military sales to support Pakistan's role in the war against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan. The first six-year assistance package (1981–87) amounted to US$3.2 billion, equally divided between economic assistance and military sales. The U.S. also sold 40 F-16 aircraft to Pakistan during 1983–87 at a cost of $1.2 billion outside the assistance package. The second six-year assistance package (1987–93) amounted to $4.2 billion. Out of this, $2.28 billion were allocated for economic assistance in the form of grants or loan that carried the interest rate of 2–3 per cent. The rest of the allocation ($1.74 billion) was in the form of credit for military purchases."

    Clinton admits to US support for Bin Laden & creation of Taliban | Rupee News
    "The Taliban was a construct of the CIA and was armed by the CIA….Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher
    It seemed like a great idea, back in the ’80s to– embolden– and train and equip– Taliban, mujahidin, jihadists against the Soviet Union, which had invaded Afghanistan. And with our help, and with the Pakistani support– this group– including, at that time, Bin Laden, defeated the Soviet Union. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Oct. 7th, 2009"

    al-Qaeda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "U.S. government financial support for the Afghan Islamic militants was substantial. Aid to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, an Afghan mujahideen leader. and founder and leader of the Hezb-e Islami radical Islamic militant faction, alone amounted "by the most conservative estimates" to $600 million. Later, in the early 1990s, after the U.S. had withdrawn support, Hekmatyar "worked closely" with bin Laden."
    So much for credible sources. Thanks for the effort, though.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So much for credible sources. Thanks for the effort, though.
    Pshhh typical.. The great thing about Wiki is that you just click on the sources and walah! You find sources! http://www.millat.com/democracy/Fore...english_11.pdf


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