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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That will never happen.
    I know. Its too bad though that place needs a wakeup call badly.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    As long as Americans are dying over there, we clearly haven't killed enough of them.
    I've got a bit of an anecdote for you sir.

    I once was putting on my shoes to go about my daily routine when I saw a pebble in my shoe. I stuck my hand in the shoe only to find web interfering with my quest to remove the pebble. I dismissed it at first, but upon further review, a black widow had decided my shoe to be somehow inhabitable. I'm not fond of dying at a young age. I also don't want to spend my day in a hospital trying to remedy poisoning. It caused quite the stir in my head and scarred me. I upped my shoe checking habits tenfold. For months I didn't feel safe putting on a shoe without a full inspection. But at some point I had to drop the act. There's not always going to be a black widow in my shoe. Its something that only happens successfully under a bevy of permitting circumstances. So eventually, I stopped checking my shoes so thoroughly and got on with my life.

    The moral of the story here is that things like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor are going to happen. And while we should take a lesson from those events, we can't spend the rest of our years as a nation in paranoia. As much as I'd love to, I'll never kill every black widow on the face of this earth. Likewise, we're never going to catch every terrorist or all who wish us harm. We probably won't be successful in reforming Afganistan as we'd like. We can still check our shoe and probably will from now on, but we can't live in fear forever. We need to keep vigilant, but we also need to realize that fear, at large, is an illusion. That being said, we can only act upon fear so much without harming ourselves.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by frogloe View Post
    I've got a bit of an anecdote for you sir.

    I once was putting on my shoes to go about my daily routine when I saw a pebble in my shoe. I stuck my hand in the shoe only to find web interfering with my quest to remove the pebble. I dismissed it at first, but upon further review, a black widow had decided my shoe to be somehow inhabitable. I'm not fond of dying at a young age. I also don't want to spend my day in a hospital trying to remedy poisoning. It caused quite the stir in my head and scarred me. I upped my shoe checking habits tenfold. For months I didn't feel safe putting on a shoe without a full inspection. But at some point I had to drop the act. There's not always going to be a black widow in my shoe. Its something that only happens successfully under a bevy of permitting circumstances. So eventually, I stopped checking my shoes so thoroughly and got on with my life.

    The moral of the story here is that things like 9/11 and Pearl Harbor are going to happen. And while we should take a lesson from those events, we can't spend the rest of our years as a nation in paranoia. As much as I'd love to, I'll never kill every black widow on the face of this earth. Likewise, we're never going to catch every terrorist or all who wish us harm. We probably won't be successful in reforming Afganistan as we'd like. We can still check our shoe and probably will from now on, but we can't live in fear forever. We need to keep vigilant, but we also need to realize that fear, at large, is an illusion. That being said, we can only act upon fear so much without harming ourselves.
    When I camp in the desert I always look for scorpions in a shoe before I put it on and I keep my eyes open for rattle snakes when I am out hiking in those shoes. That isn't paranoia it is common sense. The desert has snakes and scorpions as the planet has terrorist, it is wise on both counts to keep an eye out for them.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Wise to keep an eye out for threats, piss poor policy to spent the family into ruin by attempting to kill every snake or scorpion in the desert.

    Another poster is of the opinion as long as Americans continue to die overthere we have not killed enough of 'them'.

    How warped is that? We should have learned by now that trying to enforce our opinion on the world with military force will always have blow-back and cause deaths to our troops, do it enough and we have 9-11's.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Wise to keep an eye out for threats, piss poor policy to spent the family into ruin by attempting to kill every snake or scorpion in the desert.

    Another poster is of the opinion as long as Americans continue to die overthere we have not killed enough of 'them'.

    How warped is that? We should have learned by now that trying to enforce our opinion on the world with military force will always have blow-back and cause deaths to our troops, do it enough and we have 9-11's.
    Snakes and scorpions are not inherently evil, they serve a vital function in nature whereas terrorist are inherently evil and wiping them out would be a good thing.

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter, or don't you remember how much support the IRA got from US Citizens?

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter, or don't you remember how much support the IRA got from US Citizens?
    Or how about those pesky Revolutionists in North America...circa 1776?
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Or how about those pesky Revolutionists in North America...circa 1776?
    I don't recall any atrocities committed by "those pesky Revolutionists in North America" and the Islamist terrorists haven't brought freedom to any people I've ever heard of.
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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Diogenes-
    You REALLY need to go learn about our Revolution in the South- brutal, vicious, no quarter offered to man or woman as long standing feuds were settled under the guise of fighting the War.

    Of course you skip right over the IRA and other 'Christian' Terrorist groups....

    One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter...

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    Re: 17 Afghans beheaded in insurgent attack on party

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Diogenes-
    You REALLY need to go learn about our Revolution in the South- brutal, vicious, no quarter offered to man or woman as long standing feuds were settled under the guise of fighting the War.

    Of course you skip right over the IRA and other 'Christian' Terrorist groups....

    One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter...
    So Alquiada and the Taliban are now freedom fighters huh. They cut off heads of people they catch singing and dancing, shoot classrooms full of little girls and they blow up anybody and everybody that is not their exact form of wahabbi Islam. Who's freedom are they fighting for exactly?

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