Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 46

Thread: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

  1. #11
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Seen
    10-03-12 @ 02:06 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    405

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    There is a lot of corruption, everywhere. Not just the Chicago area.

  2. #12
    Curmudgeon


    LowDown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Houston
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,572
    Blog Entries
    11

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So when is it the fault of rabid right wing Republicans who criminalize the drug trade?
    Huh? When did the majority of Democrats start supporting drug legalization?

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." --HL Mencken

  3. #13
    Advisor Another Lurker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Uncle Joe's state
    Last Seen
    09-01-12 @ 10:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    319

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Please explain what a mayor's position on a corporate executive stance on gay marriage has to deal with drug cartels from Mexico and drug policy is decided by the federal government.
    Okay, since you don't get it ... here it is. Motor mouth (aka Emmanuel) can blabber and spout about Chick and come up with garbage like "it's not the Chicago way". Plenty of time to run his mouth on this minor, minor issue. However, people actually getting murdered in the street, which should be a major, major issue warrants silence from the otherwise motor mouth. The mayor apparently is worried about an opinion about gay marriage far more than actual human life. By the way, it seems as if you miss the point about people being killed and try to obfuscate the issue with "drug policy".

    Hopefully you get the picture.

    A L

  4. #14
    Advisor Another Lurker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Uncle Joe's state
    Last Seen
    09-01-12 @ 10:25 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    319

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Huh? When did the majority of Democrats start supporting drug legalization?
    Careful ... it might be the plank next to gay marriage in the Dim Party platform.

    A L

  5. #15
    Curmudgeon


    LowDown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Houston
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,572
    Blog Entries
    11

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Another Lurker View Post
    Careful ... it might be the plank next to gay marriage in the Dim Party platform.

    A L
    If Obama comes out for drug legalization I'll vote for him. It will never happen, though, because it will mean a much smaller government!

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." --HL Mencken

  6. #16
    Sage
    samsmart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,316
    Blog Entries
    37

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Another Lurker View Post
    Okay, since you don't get it ... here it is. Motor mouth (aka Emmanuel) can blabber and spout about Chick and come up with garbage like "it's not the Chicago way". Plenty of time to run his mouth on this minor, minor issue. However, people actually getting murdered in the street, which should be a major, major issue warrants silence from the otherwise motor mouth. The mayor apparently is worried about an opinion about gay marriage far more than actual human life. By the way, it seems as if you miss the point about people being killed and try to obfuscate the issue with "drug policy".

    Hopefully you get the picture.

    A L
    Well the reason for the gang violence is because recreational drugs remain illegal. And they are illegal under federal law. Which is determined by the federal government. Which the mayor of Chicago has no control over.

    Besides, if you're going to get onto Rahm Emanuel for wasting time on talking about Chik-Fil-A's executives lobbying to prevent gay marriage, the GOP's platform is demanding a constitutional amendment to criminalize all abortions rather than come up with effective methods of dealing with the Mexican drug cartels.

    So your side is just as bad, if not worse.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

  7. #17
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:03 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,717

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    More Chicago Values....

    BBC News - Nineteen shot in Chicago night of mayhem

    "Nineteen shot in Chicago night of mayhem"

  8. #18
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well the reason for the gang violence is because recreational drugs remain illegal. And they are illegal under federal law. Which is determined by the federal government. Which the mayor of Chicago has no control over.
    Hold on there, what you call recreational drugs are illegal because of federal, state and local law. To this day I'm aware of no locality or state that has carried or had an initiative to legalize all recreational drugs. Certainly none has passed. But pot, it's been decriminalized in many places despite that the federal law hasn't changed one bit.

    There's a reason drugs like cocaine and heroin were made prescription items, a good deal of our population was addicted at one time in our history - we don't need to return to that. The Chinese had to do the same with opium for the same reasons.

  9. #19
    Sage
    samsmart's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,316
    Blog Entries
    37

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Hold on there, what you call recreational drugs are illegal because of federal, state and local law. To this day I'm aware of no locality or state that has carried or had an initiative to legalize all recreational drugs. Certainly none has passed. But pot, it's been decriminalized in many places despite that the federal law hasn't changed one bit.

    There's a reason drugs like cocaine and heroin were made prescription items, a good deal of our population was addicted at one time in our history - we don't need to return to that. The Chinese had to do the same with opium for the same reasons.
    Yes, marijuana has, indeed, had decriminalization efforts successful in California and Oregon. And the Attorney General has threatened to prosecute state officials for not enforcing federal laws.

    And people will use recreational drugs whether they are illegal or not. Just like people drank alcohol before, during, and after Prohibition whether it was legal or not.

    And if an addict is such an adverse part of society, well, so are people who are mentally ill. But we aren't spending the same billions to provide the mentally ill with needed medication and therapy that we are spending to keep people from getting high every so often.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

  10. #20
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Mexican Drug Cartels Fight Turf Battles In Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Yes, marijuana has, indeed, had decriminalization efforts successful in California and Oregon. And the Attorney General has threatened to prosecute state officials for not enforcing federal laws.
    And there's a reason all they ever do is threaten, because it's an empty threat.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    And people will use recreational drugs whether they are illegal or not. Just like people drank alcohol before, during, and after Prohibition whether it was legal or not.
    That truism is no argument for or against legalization. Historically people will committ many different actions whether legal or not. Doesn't mean we want to legalize say, murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    And if an addict is such an adverse part of society, well, so are people who are mentally ill. But we aren't spending the same billions to provide the mentally ill with needed medication and therapy that we are spending to keep people from getting high every so often.
    And children are going hungry, and the roads need better paving. Just because other things need doing doesn't mean we can do nothing until everything can be done simulaneously. And yes, they ARE an "adverse part of society" and we do not wish to make that part grow. Addicts by their very addicition aren't "getting high every so often", and it's not recreational with them anymore, it's necessity. This is addiction we're talking about.

Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •