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    Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents - US Business News - CNBC

    Apple scored a sweeping legal victory over Samsung Electronics on Friday as a U.S. jury found the Korean company had copied critical features of the hugely popular iPhone and iPad and awarded the U.S. company $1.05 billion in damages.As for the countersuit, the jury found Appledid not violate any of Samsung's wireless standards or feature patents.
    They are going to try to get an injunction to stop sales of Samsungs equipment. And appear to be going after Google/Android next.

    It makes me wish I never bought an iMac. Greedy, monopolistic company, nothing more. I will never own another Apple product.
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    Apple is protecting its intellectual property. Good for them.
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    It's more local Americans protecting their jobs against the Koreans.

    Like this was a fair trial and jury:

    "The U.S. jury spent most of August in a packed federal courtroom in San Jose — just miles from Apple's headquarters in Cupertino..."


    Elsewhere, a court found both have violated each other's patents.

    "Earlier on Friday, a South Korean court found that both companies shared blame, ordering Samsung to stop selling 10 products including its Galaxy S II phone and banning Apple from selling four different products, including its iPhone 4."
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    This jury should be the ones sentenced to pay the billion dollars for the crime of criminal stupidity.

    1) They deliberated on 700 legal questions in 22 hours. That means they took a whole 2 minutes per question.
    2) Patents in the united states are required to be non obvious. They upheld an apple patent that literally covers nearly any rectangular electronic device. That may seem an absurd claim, but look at the link below for pictures of what apple was granted on patent on.
    Patent USD504889 - Electronic device - Google Patents
    3) They decided that samsung devices didn't infringe said patent, even though a blind idiot could see that they look they same. They created a moronic false premise and then failed to even come to a logically consistent conclusion. Ironically, two stupid mistakes managed to cancel each other out.
    4) They ignored the prior art for many of apples claimed inventions.
    5) They decided that samsungs patents were valid, but that apple wasn't infringing. This is even stupider than number 3, as samsung patents are technically required for the functionality of the Iphone.

    The correct outcome would be invalid both sides patents for failing to meet the constitutional standards for "promoting science and the arts". What happened was a travesty that defies any kind of legal or logical consistency.

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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    I could go into a big spiel about how some of you are misinformed or I could just say, haters gonna hate
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    2) Patents in the united states are required to be non obvious. They upheld an apple patent that literally covers nearly any rectangular electronic device. That may seem an absurd claim, but look at the link below for pictures of what apple was granted on patent on.
    Patent USD504889 - Electronic device - Google Patents
    Non-obviousness does not mean what you think it means. Non-obviousness has to do with it being obvious to people who doesn't have technological skill. How many Joe Plumbers could have come up with the iPad concept?
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    if there was a chance in hell i would purchase Apple products it went away with that decision. OMG they are doing what we do, only they do it better, with more options, and cheaper. How dare they give people Options. We are Apple, you will be ass.

    Sorry, I thought all this bull**** would end with the death of Jobs and Apple might take to actual competition instead of lawsuits on everyone who does things better. If it was up to them we would still be trying to figure out how to have an internet with Appletalk. How dare samsung offer up android OS, bigger screens, and rounded corners? How dare they do it cheaper, and how dare they not try to tell us we have to use AT&T for their product.

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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Non-obviousness does not mean what you think it means. Non-obviousness has to do with it being obvious to people who doesn't have technological skill. How many Joe Plumbers could have come up with the iPad concept?
    The patent doesn't cover the ipad, it covers any electronic device than is a thin rectangle with rounded corners. That is not only ****ing obvious to even a complete idiot, it also has plenty of prior art. You are also wrong about the need to be obvious to non-technological people, as federal law defines the standard for someone with "ordinary skill in the art" or an average level of knowledge and training in the field.

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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents - US Business News - CNBC

    They are going to try to get an injunction to stop sales of Samsungs equipment. And appear to be going after Google/Android next.

    It makes me wish I never bought an iMac. Greedy, monopolistic company, nothing more. I will never own another Apple product.
    This will change on appeal. The whole trial was rich with Apple bias. For one the judge ruled that Samsung could not use evidence that showed Apple stole the iPhone design from Sony, but Apple was allowed to use similar evidence to prove their point.. come on.

    Plus the court house is 10 miles from Apple HQ, so the jury pool was full of Apple fanboys since the area is know for its devotion to Apple.

    Also this was a very complicated case, and yet these mom's and pop's took under 24 hours to find a verdict and without additional instructions? They even gave damages t o Apple for products that did not infringe according to their own ruling.. wtf is that?

    It is also funny how around the world Apple has lost time and time again on the very same patent claims, but it when it comes to its own backyard (literally) then it wins... difference... the US it was a jury of its own people, where as outside the US it was professional judges that did the rulings.

    Now the ironic part is that, Apple can expect higher prices for its Samsung parts now hehe.. which account from 25% to 75% depending on the product.

    Oh and Apple can try for an injunction on Samsung, but it wont work, since most of the phones that they won on, are not made/sold any more. This wont effect the Samsung Galaxy S3 or the Galaxy Nexus as far as I can see, and atm they are cleaning Apple's clock world wide.
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    4) They ignored the prior art for many of apples claimed inventions.
    Nope they did not ignore it.. they were never given this information, because the Judge barred it. And the Judge, an former employee of the law firm who Apple hired in the case.... where she worked among other things.. for Apple... can you scream conflict of interest?

    The correct outcome would be invalid both sides patents for failing to meet the constitutional standards for "promoting science and the arts". What happened was a travesty that defies any kind of legal or logical consistency.
    The Jury was a bunch of Applefan boys.. after all they picked from the local area, which is in spitting distance of Apple HQ.
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