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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Got to love how they gave damages for the Nexus S 4G patent infringement on the bounce back effect... problem is, it never had the bounce back effect. This judgement will be thrown out fast.
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    The whole case seems like kind of a mess. I don't so much blame Apple for trying to protect their intellectual property as I do the patent office for some of the ridiculous things they let them patent.

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    They are going to try to get an injunction to stop sales of Samsungs equipment.
    I doubt they'll get it.

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    And appear to be going after Google/Android next.
    That would be just about the dumbest thing they could do. They've avoided going after Google so far because it would be much harder to prove a case against them, and because Google has a much better legal team than any of the hardware manufacturers do.
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Non-obviousness does not mean what you think it means. Non-obviousness has to do with it being obvious to people who doesn't have technological skill. How many Joe Plumbers could have come up with the iPad concept?
    A lot of them I would guess. I mean, it's not exactly groundbreaking. Apple was hardly the first company to propose such a device. Hell, Star Trek the Next Generation had tablets 25 years ago. Bill gates had a working prototype of a tablet PC in 2003, a couple years before Apple even filed the patent.
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    The whole case seems like kind of a mess. I don't so much blame Apple for trying to protect their intellectual property as I do the patent office for some of the ridiculous things they let them patent.



    I doubt they'll get it.



    That would be just about the dumbest thing they could do. They've avoided going after Google so far because it would be much harder to prove a case against them, and because Google has a much better legal team than any of the hardware manufacturers do.
    Google is already going after them.

    And Now Google Sues Apple - Forbes

    The patent wars have begun.

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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Google is already going after them.

    And Now Google Sues Apple - Forbes

    The patent wars have begun.
    Yea, and Apple should fear the Motorola suit big time. If Motorola wins, then it would mean an instant stop of all sales of pretty much all Apple products in the US.. hell world wide. And it is in front of experts, not a jury.

    But this case is far far from over. Just saw an interview of British patent and technology expert on Al Jazerra, and he pointed out that patents are very difficult to understand, especially for the layman and in this case you put this complicated patents in the hands of a jury taken from the area around Apple HQ. He pointed out that many of the jury if not all, most likely knew someone working for Apple.

    Such cases should never be put in front of a jury.. far far too complicated.

    Plus I suspect Samsung gave up some what and started the appeal process quite early because of the judge not allowing the evidence showing Apple copied Sony for the iPhone. This alone should mean the verdict should be thrown out.. after all it is not like the evidence came from unreliable sources... it came from Apple it self.
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Google is already going after them.

    And Now Google Sues Apple - Forbes

    The patent wars have begun.
    Quoted from the article.

    As I noted at the start my main hope is that once everyone has sued everyone, all the appeals courts have had their say, then the law on patents, who can do what with them, should be much clearer.
    I heartily agree with this part. Maybe this will encourage a bit more common sense in the whole patent field.

    Although, I have to say I would be extremely amused if Google was able to get an injunction to force Apple to stop selling things in the US. I doubt it would happen, but it would be hilarious if it did.
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Such cases should never be put in front of a jury.. far far too complicated.
    I completely agree with this. When the judge has to force the jurors to stand up in court so they don't fall asleep while she reads over 100 pages of instructions to them, that's perhaps a sign that a jury trial isn't the right venue for that particular legal battle.
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Quoted from the article.



    I heartily agree with this part. Maybe this will encourage a bit more common sense in the whole patent field.

    Although, I have to say I would be extremely amused if Google was able to get an injunction to force Apple to stop selling things in the US. I doubt it would happen, but it would be hilarious if it did.
    Well the problem with this case is that it effects pretty much all Apple products. And if Motorola wins on just one of these, then yes all Apple will be barred from importing their products into the US. Apple did it to HTC after all and will try with Samsung.

    Look at the bright side.. it might force Apple to move its production to the US!
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    I completely agree with this. When the judge has to force the jurors to stand up in court so they don't fall asleep while she reads over 100 pages of instructions to them, that's perhaps a sign that a jury trial isn't the right venue for that particular legal battle.
    Not to mention it took the jury 22 hours to answer the 700 questions in the lawsuit... that is 2 minutes per question.. So they seriously debated each question? yea right!
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    Re: Apple Wins $1 Billion as Jury Finds Samsung Violated Patents

    I saw someone put something about Samsung making the better product and chuckled a bit. Either way what kind of tool is going to defend either one? Obviously quite a few.
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