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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've explained it already before in this thread.

    So, what are the first few words in the 1st Amendment?

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Seems pretty obvious that by including religion in Title VII they violated the "make no law" clause in the 1st Amendment.
    Title VII doesn't establish a religion.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    You have to be joking. You should research this a bit more. Read what the EEOC said.

    Grand Prairie Burger King Franchisee Sued by EEOC for Religious Discrimination
    They didn't practice religious discrimination in the workplace. They informed her of a dress code and she chose to to violate it (or not adhere to it).
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've explained it already before in this thread.

    So, what are the first few words in the 1st Amendment?

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Seems pretty obvious that by including religion in Title VII they violated the "make no law" clause in the 1st Amendment.
    The establishment clause has generally been interpreted to prohibit 1) the establishment of a national religion by Congress, or 2) the preference by the U.S. government of one religion over another.

    Establishment Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    They didn't practice religious discrimination in the workplace. They informed her of a dress code and she chose to to violate it (or not adhere to it).
    The government disagrees with you. Good thing too, because you seem to be ignorant of the chain of events that explicitly demonstrate discrimination.

    I don't even know why someone would bother arguing Constitutionality in this situation. Sure argue your opinion of what should be legal, but to argue current EEOC laws...? get real.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what is made clear is that you have no idea what this provision of the Constitution actually means:
    that title VII makes it unlawful to discriminate against those who exercise their right to engage in religious practices only reinforces what the Constitution has decreed
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    Title VII doesn't establish a religion.
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    The establishment clause has generally been interpreted to prohibit 1) the establishment of a national religion by Congress, or 2) the preference by the U.S. government of one religion over another.

    Establishment Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Yes I know what the establishment clause is. However I'm looking at the next part of that line when it says "or prohibiting the free exercise of". The key word there being "or" which means that the "shall make no law" also applies. What Title VII does is extend it to private buisnesses also however that is still Congress making a law against the free exercise of religion. It makes it to where a buisness, a private buisness ran by citizens and not the government, can not practice their own religion, even if that is to NOT practice a religion.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    The government disagrees with you. Good thing too, because you seem to be ignorant of the chain of events that explicitly demonstrate discrimination.

    I don't even know why someone would bother arguing Constitutionality in this situation. Sure argue your opinion of what should be legal, but to argue current EEOC laws...? get real.
    I am arguing my opinion and I disagree with the government. That can be a very healthy thing at times and if you are implying that this should be discouraged then don't bother replying to me again.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    You have to be joking. You should research this a bit more. Read what the EEOC said.

    Grand Prairie Burger King Franchisee Sued by EEOC for Religious Discrimination
    Please enlighten me on how that part of the civil rights bill is constitutional. The government used the commerce clause, so feel free to also use that if you want.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am arguing my opinion and I disagree with the government. That can be a very healthy thing at times and if you are implying that this should be discouraged then don't bother replying to me again.
    I am not implying anything. I am being blunt. I think opinions of discrimination should be discouraged. I do not think any discrimination is healthy to either party.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes I know what the establishment clause is. However I'm looking at the next part of that line when it says "or prohibiting the free exercise of". The key word there being "or" which means that the "shall make no law" also applies. What Title VII does is extend it to private buisnesses also however that is still Congress making a law against the free exercise of religion. It makes it to where a buisness, a private buisness ran by citizens and not the government, can not practice their own religion, even if that is to NOT practice a religion.
    I actually kinda agree with you as neither of the two are being violated...
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    I am not implying anything. I am being blunt. I think opinions of discrimination should be discouraged. I do not think any discrimination is healthy to either party.
    I agree. I just don't see a dress code as discrimination.

    " the equal protection of the laws, equality of status under the law, equal treatment in the administration of justice, and equality of opportunity and access to employment, education, housing, public services and facilities, and public accommodation because of their exercise of their right to religious freedom."

    U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, 1979: Religious discrimination. A neglected issue. A consultation sponsored by the United States Commission on Civil Rights, Washington D.C., April 9–10, 1979

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    She has equal opportunity and access to employment.
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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