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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I hear what you're saying, but I still think it should be the choice of the business as to whether or not they want to change a dress code to accommodate someone's personal religious beliefs. Okay, so maybe the skirt isn't such a big deal, but it is the principle.

    I'm going to be stubborn about this.
    I hear ya. I agree completly. A business should have whatever dress code they like. Enforced as they see fit. That said a one size fits all approach though would be a bit foolish in my opinion. Thats all I was saying.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I hear what you're saying, but I still think it should be the choice of the business as to whether or not they want to change a dress code to accommodate someone's personal religious beliefs. Okay, so maybe the skirt isn't such a big deal, but it is the principle.

    I'm going to be stubborn about this.
    You have to be unreasonably stubborn, but at least recognize that the Constitution does not agree. Unless BK can show a compelling reason to prohibit her, than they are deep poo. Proof of this is the EEOC speedy involvement.

    We haven't come far enough in our respect of religious liberties at the workplace if we have employers saying that uniform policies trump a religious observance without articulation of any hardship posed by letting an employee 'hold the pickles' and 'hold the lettuce' while wearing a skirt," regional attorney Robert A. Canino of the EEOC's Dallas District Office said.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    You have to be unreasonably stubborn, or recognize that the Constitution does not agree. Unless BK can show a compelling reason to prohibit her, than they are deep poo. Proof of this is the EEOC speedy involvement.
    Where does it say in the constitution that businesses cannot have a dress code and enforce it? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as being religious discrimination at all.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Sure, but are we trying to achieve non-discrimination, or just not saying why we're discriminating?
    Perhaps we haven't learned the lessons of the ADA.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Where does it say in the constitution that businesses cannot have a dress code and enforce it? I'm sorry, I just don't see this as being religious discrimination at all.
    You have to be joking. You should research this a bit more. Read what the EEOC said.

    http://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/8-22-12a.cfm

    Such alleged conduct violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits religious discrimination in the workplace. The EEOC filed suit after first attempting to reach a pre-litigation settlement through its conciliation process. The EEOC seeks back pay, compensatory and punitive damages, and injunctive relief to ensure that no further discrimination takes place.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    You have to be joking. You should research this a bit more. Read what the EEOC said.
    I did. I don't think Burger King discriminated against this woman based upon her religion.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    You have to be joking. You should research this a bit more. Read what the EEOC said.

    Grand Prairie Burger King Franchisee Sued by EEOC for Religious Discrimination
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Title VII is not a part of the Constitution. It was a law that was passed. A law that is actually in violation of the Constution.
    ok, now explain how title VII violates the provisions of the Constitution
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    ok, now explain how title VII violates the provisions of the Constitution
    I've explained it already before in this thread.

    So, what are the first few words in the 1st Amendment?

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Seems pretty obvious that by including religion in Title VII they violated the "make no law" clause in the 1st Amendment.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've explained it already before in this thread.

    So, what are the first few words in the 1st Amendment?

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Seems pretty obvious that by including religion in Title VII they violated the "make no law" clause in the 1st Amendment.
    what is made clear is that you have no idea what this provision of the Constitution actually means:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
    that title VII makes it unlawful to discriminate against those who exercise their right to engage in religious practices only reinforces what the Constitution has decreed
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