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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Oh, come on bud, you know full well that when you swore the oath and signed on the dotted line, your life belonged to Uncle Sam and it is a whole different thing from civilian employement.
    Not for the purposes of this. I agreed to the terms and conditions of employment, and I am obliged to maintain them. If I get out of the military and sign any other labor contracts, I will be obliged to perform according to their expectations as well. The woman does not have the right to a job from BK.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    And the business should not have to cater to her. She can find a job where skirts are okay. If she can't wear pants, that is HER problem. Why does it have to make it Burger King's problem, or any other business' problem?
    Precisely. BK is not denying her employment. They simply won't hire people who won't wear pants. She is free to work wherever she can come to mutually agreeable terms with the employer. It is not BK's fault that her conscience limits those places to ones where she can wear skirts.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not for the purposes of this. I agreed to the terms and conditions of employment, and I am obliged to maintain them. If I get out of the military and sign any other labor contracts, I will be obliged to perform according to their expectations as well. The woman does not have the right to a job from BK.
    The woman had a right not to be discriminated against based on her religion in the the pursuit and execution of that job.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The woman had a right not to be discriminated against based on her religion in the the pursuit and execution of that job.
    1. No, she doesn't. It is simply illegal to do so. RIGHTS are negative, not positive things, and that is important. For that matter, the law which bans discrimination on the part of an employer is an infringement upon their rights, and should be ended.

    2. If she get's fired simply for being a pentecostal, let me know. I only wander into a fast-food-burger joint once in a blue moon, but I will avoid BK in the future (which would be sad, the whopper is far superior to McDonalds' products). However, it looks here like she got fired for refusing to conform to the dress code.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The woman had a right not to be discriminated against based on her religion in the the pursuit and execution of that job.
    I just don't see any discrimination against her religion involved in this situation. I see it more as a "follow the rules or go elsewhere" situation, and if the employee who was interviewing her gave her bad information, that is also not "discrimination." And did she ever work for even one day there? I read that she was there for orientation and was sent home for not having the proper attire. And why did it take 2 years for this lawsuit to come up?

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I just don't see any discrimination against her religion involved in this situation. I see it more as a "follow the rules or go elsewhere" situation, and if the employee who was interviewing her gave her bad information, that is also not "discrimination." And did she ever work for even one day there? I read that she was there for orientation and was sent home for not having the proper attire. And why did it take 2 years for this lawsuit to come up?
    let me help you out, then

    the pentecost woman cannot wear pants and also be consistent with the teachings of her G_d as she understands them to be
    burger king insists that she wear pants
    so, now she is placed in a position where she must decide to obey burger king or her G_d
    burger king cannot unreasonably place her in that position to have to choose between the two
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    1. No, she doesn't. It is simply illegal to do so. RIGHTS are negative, not positive things, and that is important. For that matter, the law which bans discrimination on the part of an employer is an infringement upon their rights, and should be ended.

    2. If she get's fired simply for being a pentecostal, let me know. I only wander into a fast-food-burger joint once in a blue moon, but I will avoid BK in the future (which would be sad, the whopper is far superior to McDonalds' products). However, it looks here like she got fired for refusing to conform to the dress code.

    This is what her protected rights are in this specific situation: "“religion” includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief" BK according to the EEOC breached those rights.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I just don't see any discrimination against her religion involved in this situation. I see it more as a "follow the rules or go elsewhere" situation, and if the employee who was interviewing her gave her bad information, that is also not "discrimination." And did she ever work for even one day there? I read that she was there for orientation and was sent home for not having the proper attire. And why did it take 2 years for this lawsuit to come up?
    It was a religious practice, observance or belief for which BK acted to the detriment of the woman..

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    The woman had a right not to be discriminated against based on her religion in the the pursuit and execution of that job.
    Having the same dress code for everyone is not discriminating, it treats everyone the same.
    To open this door, opens other doors, like a Muslim woman wanting to wear a burka at work.
    We have the freedom to choose where we work. This freedom comes with the understanding that there
    are conditions to our employment agreement.
    We get to work on time, we dress according to the dress code, we preform the tasks assigned...ect.
    To ask someone to do something they have already agreed to, is not discrimination,
    it is just part of the job!

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    This is what her protected rights are in this specific situation: "“religion” includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief" BK according to the EEOC breached those rights.
    You are conflating two different points.

    1. I realize this might be a violation of the EEOC

    2. That does not mean that this womans' RIGHTS were violated. You do not receive your rights from the government (and, again, that's important). Since you do not have a right to have someone else hire you, this womans' rights have not been infringed.

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