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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    She was not fired due to her religious beliefs. She was fired becuase she refused to put on the proper uniform. I cant tell you the number of times I have been told one thing by one manager only to be told something entirely different by another. What stands is what is official company policy. In this case it is that all employees wear pants. That is not discriination. This case will go nowhere.
    And she couldn't wear the proper uniform due to her religious beliefs, which she explained at the interview, and was fired because of it. That's something management cannot do without facing recourse.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Every time I've been interviewed by a fast food franchise, it has been by the store manager. Some of these franchises have two store managers, one for the day shift, one for the night shift, which I suspect is what this store has. Either way, management is management. I was a shift manager for Jack in the Box for some time, and the majority of the training is on complying with federal law, and what will get the store in trouble with the feds and the inspectors. When management ****s up, it's not just the managers name and job on the line, it's the well being of the store as a whole.
    Yes and no. Agency law can get complicated. It's certainly possible that a business enterprise might be bound by the representations of its agents (i.e. management). It all depends on the details. You're also making the assumption that this girl dealt with the same situation that you did. Maybe that's true, maybe it's not. Neither of us have the information. Obviously whoever hired this girl would have been smart not to have done so in the first place. It would have saved everyone involved a lot of tsuris.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    So if the initial interviewer had told her 'no' as to wearing the skirt, would she still have sued?
    If the dress code was due to safety reasons then I do not believe she would have a basis for suit as she would not be able to perform due to safty reasons. If it is a simple dress code and the employer said no based upon her religion then I believe she could go forward and sue. Unless it caused undue hardship on the employer(see below)


    Because some low level manager believed such an accomodation could be made does not bind BK to making it.
    If the manger had the authority to speak for BK yes they could bind the corporation.

    I just dont see the religious discrimination here. If someones religious faith told them that they could onlywork Monday, Wednesday and Friday and I refused to hire them would that be religious discimination on my part? There is absolutely no reason why an employer must 'accomodate' every nonsensical mystical belief. He is trying to run a business after all.
    An accommodation is not a matter of right in as much as if it is practicable and does not cause undue hardship then those who are subject to these laws must comply.

    "The term “religion” includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief, unless an employer demonstrates that he is unable to reasonably accommodate to an employee’s or prospective employee’s religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer’s business."

    Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    If there is a good reason for the particular dress code (i.e. safety reasons), then I'm gonna side with Burger King. If not, then I think they should do their best to accommodate the individual.

    On the other hand, however, where does one draw the line? My company's dress code is for everyone to wear a blue polo shirt, khaki pants, an undershirt, and dark shoes - that's our uniform (y'all can probably guess where I work). What if it's against my religious beliefs to wear a blue polo? Is the company supposed to accommodate me and allow me to wear a purple polo instead? Or am I being unreasonable and if I can't follow company policy i should simply work somewhere else?
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    If she's a pentecostal then WHY is she working there to begin with?

    Ok - that's not allowed - she should never have applied. I was raise Pente - no no!!
    I don't understand this... Pentecostals can't work in fast food joints?
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Black people have the freedom to not work at a place that doesn't want to hire blacks, eh?
    Black people can't do anything about their color. Religion is a personal choice. Please try and compare that homosexuality. I dare you.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't understand this... Pentecostals can't work in fast food joints?

    I don't know. All I know there are dress codes to be respected.


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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    I don't know. All I know there are dress codes to be respected.

    PC is not going to prevail. Period.
    It's fun to watch all the conservatives who rail about PC going crazy - trying to be PC now.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I don't understand this... Pentecostals can't work in fast food joints?
    Yes they can as she demonstrated by applying and showing up for the job......

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Black people can't do anything about their color. Religion is a personal choice. Please try and compare that homosexuality. I dare you.
    What are you talking about, Michael Jackson turned white.

    Besides, a belief is a strong thing and I don't think that we should really punish religious expression without good cause. Particularly if we're gonna run around and protect everyone else.
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