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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, I think that's where the mistake lies. With the employee who told her it would be alright to wear a skirt, when it obviously isn't. That employee should lose his/her job for giving this potential employee false information, and Burger King shouldn't have to cater to this person who just wants to make a buck. I don't think companies should have to make "special" accommodations because of somebody's religious beliefs.
    And I would agree with you, right up until that manager told her that they would. Once they said that, it's no longer a special accommodation, it's a hiring agreement, just like agreeing that someone doesn't have to work on Tuesdays if they have school.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And I would agree with you, right up until that manager told her that they would. Once they said that, it's no longer a special accommodation, it's a hiring agreement, just like agreeing that someone doesn't have to work on Tuesdays if they have school.
    But what if the manager made a mistake or was not familiar with the rules? Why does BK have to support something that an employee erroneously told another potential employee?

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    That is the employees contention, but we have no way of knowing whether or not that was true. Personally, I find it hard to believe that a manager in charge of hiring people would be confused about uniform policy, but BK hasnt figured out how to serve a hot hamburger so anything is possible. But the main point here is whether or not a company has the right to institute its own dress code. Or whether it must accommodate every nonsensical religious belief any prospective employee walks through the door with. Requiring women to wear pants while working is not an unusual requirement. Women wear pants all the time--womens pants. So if this girl has some moronic objection to wearing mens pants, she can wear womens pants.
    Showing your intolerance by calling the woman a moron does not strengthen your case. In fact it reduced your personal credibility on this thread. Obviously you didn't take the time to read the OP post or you would be making a statement about women's pants....or any pants at all.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Showing your intolerance by calling the woman a moron does not strengthen your case. In fact it reduced your personal credibility on this thread. Obviously you didn't take the time to read the OP post or you would be making a statement about women's pants....or any pants at all.
    I did read the link. And her beliefs are moronic

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Furiounova View Post
    I see. When did you last protest not having a Whites Only restaurant?
    This is such an idiotic comment it hardly bears response. Since I dont protest Hooters I would probably not protest a "whites only" restaurant. Since I dont FREQUENT Hooters I probably wouldnt frequent a "whites only" restaurant. Since I have a bit of mud in my blood I probably wouldnt be welcome at one. Oh sure...I could respond with an equally childish comment like "when did I last protest not having a whites only restaurant...hmmm...I think it was just after I stopped banging your mother..." but that would be equally childish so I wont go there. No...lets just leave it at what it was...a comment on individuals rights and freedoms. You have a right to NOT frequent an establishment. You do NOT have the right to not get all butthurt because you dont like the rules of said establishment. As for your racist comment...well...how IS your mom doing these days?

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    it's also called kiss the boss' ass or he can fire you for nothing. I live in a "right to work state" so I know firsthand. An employer can typically fire an employee and not suffer any great or lasting financial harm...
    that is incorrect. having employment rules that cause quality employees to seek out your competitors will cause them to out compete you, and your business will die. actual bias or abuse by employers is incredibly self-destructive. Employees are free to quit for any reason but employers aren't free to fire for any reason? That's not fair - that's using government as your bully, to tilt the rules in your favor.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    that is incorrect. having employment rules that cause quality employees to seek out your competitors will cause them to out compete you, and your business will die. actual bias or abuse by employers is incredibly self-destructive. Employees are free to quit for any reason but employers aren't free to fire for any reason? That's not fair - that's using government as your bully, to tilt the rules in your favor.



    Not when the economy is bad and 100 people line up to apply for even the crappier jobs....

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    I would say it is up to the company, but it would probably be a good thing to allow it if possible for safety reasons.

    Being in a fast food est, it might not be possible for safety reasons. (Grease, the skirt getting caught on corners etc)
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Not when the economy is bad and 100 people line up to apply for even the crappier jobs....
    That is why it pays to have a skill. If you do a job that anyone can do, then you are, well, expendable. But if your job requires training and skill and is difficult to fill, then any rational employer will bend over backward to make you happy on the job. Having the state ste in and protect the jobs of the unskilled reduces the incentive for those unskilled workers to better themselves and learn a marketable trade.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Not when the economy is bad and 100 people line up to apply for even the crappier jobs....
    I can understand the point you are trying to make here, where it would be easier for an employer to mistreat an employee because he or she might be desperate for a job and not in a position to just quit. Still though, I don't think it gets much worse than BK as far as pay rates go, and this does not negate the fact that if an employee is unhappy with his job, he or she can quit. Of course, I do think that employers should be held to standards too, but I still think this particular case is completely bogus, this girl probably does not NEED a job as she is a teenager and lives with her parents, she was most likely misinformed by another employee who was obviously unfamiliar with the dress code, BK has uniforms that are standard for everybody, and I think she just wants a payday. IMO, the employer should not have to cater to anybody's religious quirks.

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