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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The thing is, she took the same initiative that you say that you do. During her interview she discussed her religious requirements and they told her that it would be ok for her to wear a skirt. It would be like an employer hiring you and then firing you later for having tattoos or earrings even though they specifically said that they would be acceptable.
    *raises hand* A similar situation happened to me. Not with the tattooes, I have none. I was hired as a tech at a casino and before I got hired I was upfront about my previous felony record. I was told by the manager that it would be no problem. 2 or so months later I was fired because of my record. Even after I had been nominated for employee of the month. Yeah I protested it, I went to the owners and talked to them about it. They still said I was fired. I accepted that. I did not even consider sueing them. But my point is that just because someone can do the hiring does not mean that they have the right to change company policy. Which is why I have continueally asked the question in this thread of "Did the guy that hire her have the authority to change company policy?" No one has yet to answer that question.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It appears (to me) that the issue will be around whether or not accomodating her religious beliefs, with regard to dress, is putting an undue burden on BK. My guess is that she will win, but I'm no legal sumbitch either.
    LOL! Darlin', I'd never refer to you as a legalsumbitch, regardless. Or parts thereof.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    LOL! Darlin', I'd never refer to you as a legalsumbitch, regardless. Or parts thereof.
    Yes, I realize that sweetie. I was just making a point that I am certainly no legal eagle either.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I would say being terminated from employment is different from being told a lie on the sales floor prior to a purchase (which may be subject to fraud or false advertising). What this does do is affect her employment record and show up on background checks.
    No actually it would not show up anywhere. I should know as I've had plenty of background checks done on me and they never once asked me about previous jobs that I have had but I didn't mention in the application. Nor did they ever refuse to hire me because I didn't mention those jobs on the application despite that whole spiel about "the whole truth" that pretty much every application has now a days.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring99 View Post
    What would your thoughts be if this was a store owned by a Muslim and the owner required all women employees to wear a hijab and dress below their knees?
    It's that muslims buisness. I wouldn't care. I would defend his right to institute a dress code and apply it equally across his employee's just as much as I am defending BK's right to do so also.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Problem with that is she did not sue ......the US government sued on her behalf....



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    3. The Plaintiff, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (the“Commission”), is an agency of the United States of America charged with the administration, interpretation and enforcement of Title VII and is expressly authorized tobring this action by Section 706(a) of Title VII, 42 U.S.C. Section 2000e-5(a)."

    EEOC v Fries Restaurant Management
    And who told them about this supposed discrimination? The EEOC cannot go after someone without first knowing about it.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Yes of my own free will. A job is about making money for me. And if that job is good enough and it isnt violating something like murdering kids or something then sure I would take it.
    So you are not forced to get that job by that employer. You voluntarily take it. Should that employer be made to accomodate your belief? If so, why? If not, why?

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    That isnt the question you asked me. Here is what you asked me.
    Yes, I know.

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    But no he doesnt have the authority to change company policy. You claimed that she knew there would be a problem with her wearing a skirt and I showed how she was told that it wasnt a problem.
    So if he does not have the authority to change company policy then he has no legal right to tell this woman that she could wear a skirt against company policy. Indeed it is grounds for termination in itself. Which means that the person who was suppose to give her the orientation was quite valid in firing her for not conforming to company policy. A policy which as an orientation trainer he must enforce in order to properly train the trainee's.

    Thank you for answering that question btw.
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Again she was told wearing a skirt would be ok. She did not think wearing a skirt would have been a problem. Also im pretty sure ive seen women wear skirts while working at BK before.
    Was it within the same franchise?
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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So you are not forced to get that job by that employer. You voluntarily take it. Should that employer be made to accomodate your belief? If so, why? If not, why?



    Yes, I know.



    So if he does not have the authority to change company policy then he has no legal right to tell this woman that she could wear a skirt against company policy. Indeed it is grounds for termination in itself. Which means that the person who was suppose to give her the orientation was quite valid in firing her for not conforming to company policy. A policy which as an orientation trainer he must enforce in order to properly train the trainee's.

    Thank you for answering that question btw.
    Depends on if its reasonable for them to accommodate me or not. Like does it interfere with the job in any way? Do they have to spend large portions of money in order to accommodate me? Things like that.

    So if you know that you didnt ask me the question then why did you say "So maybe you will answer the question this time. Lord knows I've asked it enough."

    I dont think they had a valid reason to fire her. People shouldnt have to choose between having a job and a religious belief which is what this is all about.

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    Re: Christian Woman Fired from Burger King for Wearing Skirt Instead of Pants

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Was it within the same franchise?
    No clue at all.

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